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Whats wrong with Islam.....
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I think YouTube is full of crap but this guy says what a lot of of people think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1ZLXbKeL2U
This is the video that got the attention: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1ZLXbKeL2U
This is the video that got the attention: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc
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I doubt he lives in an area with that many Muslims.
From his other video, 'The Trouble with Islam', on the other hand is just an application video for a Daily Mail editorial. That is irresponsible and the ridiculous ramblings of a wholly uninformed man.
2 years ago I might have agreed with you. Then I started studying and speaking with people in the Birmingham Muslim community, and things are a lot more complex than I had imagined.
Yes there are zealots, and yes there are problems with mosque democracy. yes there are conservative elements in the Muslim community, and yes there are issues around the role of women.
BUT; Muslims know this. They know this because, well, a lot of those Muslims without hooks-for-hands who don't make good television, you don't hear from them.
"We're sick of hearing from muslims" the video's author states; well I can refer you to plenty of Muslims who have similar views; they are sick of Islam always being in the media, and muslims always being in the spotlight. Specifically they see zealots and bigots (present in every human culture) grabbing the headlines while moderate community engagement doesn't get a look in.
What do you think SkyNews are more interested in; Mr. Khan from no.47's views on Mosque democracy, or the latest ramblings of Mohammed al-Kaboom the local nutcase and his ten followers?
Nigh on 14 centuries young in fact!
What a moron........
Well we all know that anything younger than Christianity is a "young religion" and anything older that Christianity is "no longer relevant to our modern lifestyle." :rolleyes:
I think....this is going way back to GCSE RE lessons...
Evidence?
There are 1.4 billion Muslims in the world, it's not a single monolith. There are many various strands, this guy seems to think all Muslims think the same and all male Muslims agree with women having their faces covered and stuff like that. Bit full of himself, he did make some interesting ponts in his reply video though.
Islam is not older than Christianity. They all share prophets and whatnot but aren't the same.
Basically, Judaism was the first one, Christianity (Catholicism) came after that, then Islam and then all the various Protestant demonitations.
I must have been thinking about some other one. Sikhism maybe :chin:.
For what? I wasn't making a statement, I was reporting an attitude I happen to have seen people display on messageboards (not this one) before. I doubt I could get any evidence to back this up, because that's like trying to prove a conversation you had with someone once.
This is absurd
This is the video he posted before this. Now this IS xenophobia. Its also highly misleading, patronising rubbish that smacks of the kind of colonial British superiority that we are (in some parts of the world) despised for to this day.
"Muslim women in Britain who cover their faces, are mentally ill"
If that was a statement made about white British women by a member of Hizb-ut-Tahrir, it would be all over the evening news.
GUYS WE'VE BEEN HAD!!!! (I've been had)
He's a comedian! No wonder I couldn't stop laughing.
I dunno, usually whenever I see something in Inverted Commas I take it as a direct quotation from someone or something. I thought you would back that up with some evidence. In all my time in life or on message boards I never heard anyone say what you wrote.
Yes and the OP already posted that link in his initial post.
I presume you mean 'catholicism' as in the meaning of 'catholic' which means 'universal' or 'general' - and not 'Roman Catholicism' which only appeared around 312 with the conversion of the Roman Emperor, Constantine?
Don't the Greek Orthodox argue that they are the original form of Christianity?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_Church
I thought the Orthodox Church broke away from Catholicism around the 10th Century? I'm not entirely sure tbh. ETA: I was talking in relation to the Great Schism of 1054.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Schism
There's is a certain ambiguity about the early Church and whether Jesus asked Peter to found the Church. All I do know is that Peter was the first Pope of the established Christain Church which later became Roman Catholicism and then everything else happened after that.
Of course, that does not coincide with what the Bible states :
Christ?s commission to Peter was that he become chief minister to the CIRCUMCISED, not to uncircumcised Gentiles.
"The gospel of the CIRCUMCISION was unto Peter; (For He that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles)" (Gal. 2:7-8).
So he never went to Rome but worked to convert the Jews to Christ.
Whereas Paul specifically told the Gentile Romans that HE had been chosen to be their Apostle, not Peter.
"I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable" (Rom. 15:16).
And Paul did indeed go to Rome.
But we go off-topic and this could always be another thread.
Islam came AFTER Christianity cos they believe Jesus was a prophet of God (not his actual SON though)
Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all very similar - main thing in common being the belief in one God - unlike some other religions which believe in several Gods.
In respect to Islam being a relatively young religion, the Islamic calender is currently in the year 1428...which is less than 600 years difference to the existance of Christianity. In the grand scheme of things that isnt very much. However, i was taught that Adam and Eve, were Muslim (or more accurately God's Followers) but over time, religion was lost, which was when Judaism came to be, followed by Christianity and then Islam.
It is sort of the same god too, certainly the god didnt change when christians and jews split, and I'm fairly sure its the god of abraham which is the god in islam. Its just the names and how they worship which are different.