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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Surely the Spanish have as good stuff as the British, don't we sell iut to them?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    We can't be trusted with machinery though. I hear in the news we have just crashed a Eurofighter

    However we're best in infantry operations. Our dreaded Foreign Legion sweeps the board. Didn't you hear about our textbook assault and capture of Perejil Island from the Moroccans a few months ago? They fought impossible odds against the occupying forces (4 Moroccan soldiers) in an unforgiving land populated with dangerous beasts (one goat was killed during the assault) . Yet the island was conquered in minutes and without the loss of a single life. Were you watching Mr Bush? :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I must say I'm surprised about the level of errm, well racism really towards the spanish, I'm preaty sure that the varst majority of them couldnt care less what happens to the rock.

    The reason the people there want to saty british is because they have all the benefits without having to have the downs. They dont pay much if any tax, and enjoy a kind of free port status.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by bongbudda
    The reason the people there want to saty british is because they have all the benefits without having to have the downs. They dont pay much if any tax, and enjoy a kind of free port status.

    Thank you. You must be the first British person I've spoken to able to see the Gibraltarians under a different light.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    They pay VAT and income tax like everyone else budda, and it is still the same as it is here.
    The only difference is the sheer distance between them and central government makes "shady" deals a lot easier. But you couldn't possibly be suggesting that EVERY Gibraltan has something to do with that now are you....:rolleyes:

    And racism towards the Spanish? Jesus Christ, I thought we'd got rid of the PC Brigade.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    they have better rifles than the British.

    Everybody has better rifles than the British... :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    And the British are a better shot than everybody else :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere
    And the British are a better shot than everybody else :p

    Yeah, right...

    White Feather
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    A man who has been dead for 25 years doesn't stop the us Brits from being better than you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere
    A man who has been dead for 25 years doesn't stop the us Brits from being better than you.

    You're correct. The school he founded does. ScoutSniper
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Some things need to be cleared up about the SA-80/L85.

    The SA-80 is in fact the most technologically advanced rifle in the world second to the Soviet AM-94. The gun, when it works, is highly effective. The problems with it are thus. It is a piece of good engineering and as such has very low tolerances. If one speck of dust should get into the mechanism then it's likely to jam. However good cleaning from the soldiers should keep jamming to a minimum. When Kalashnikov designed the AK-47 (followed by the AK-74 and the AM-94) he purposely worked around low tolerances so the weapon could be used effectivly in mud and snow. It is only a small modification the SA-80 needs but the MOD wont pay for it.

    The military runway at RAF Gibralter is only bad in one way. The men and Officers who walk across it to get to work each day rather than go round.

    Spain asking for Gibralter back is worse than Germany asking for Alsace-lorraine back. Spain continuously breaks EU laws on their treatment of the Gibraltarians but Britain are expected by everyone to cooperate with them. It's time for Blair to grow some balls and tell Spain and the EU where to go.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    We're not racist towards spaniards. a lot of us have spanish ancestry. we work every day with them and we have spanish friends and family.

    we oppose the spanish government's policy on gibraltar, which seems to be a remnant from the franco era. as has been said, most spaniards (especially young people) really dont give a toss about getting gibraltar back - they dont see the need for it and if the gibraltarians dont want to be spanish, well fine.

    it works the other way round too. ordinary spaniards arent racist towards gibraltarians. of course there will always be a minority who take the spanish governments policies far too literally, but then again that happens everywhere.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    Gibraltar might not have the same legal status as Guernsey or Jersey, but it still has one of the biggest collection of tax-dodgers, tax free companies, smugglers, money launderers and other lowlife in the whole world. It's not surprising the locals are fighting to keep their current status so vigorously.

    bullshit.

    wake up and welcome to the real world - youre buying into the lies of the spanish government.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by samuti


    bullshit.


    :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by xicoperez


    :rolleyes:

    yes, i'm sure you're completely familiar with our tax reports, and i'm sure you're aware that we were recently given the all-clear by an independent enquiry commissioned by the EU.

    like i said before, if you dont know the facts, dont get involved.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by RoyalSubject
    The SA-80 is in fact the most technologically advanced rifle in the world second to the Soviet AM-94. The gun, when it works, is highly effective. The problems with it are thus. It is a piece of good engineering and as such has very low tolerances. If one speck of dust should get into the mechanism then it's likely to jam. However good cleaning from the soldiers should keep jamming to a minimum. When Kalashnikov designed the AK-47 (followed by the AK-74 and the AM-94) he purposely worked around low tolerances so the weapon could be used effectivly in mud and snow. It is only a small modification the SA-80 needs but the MOD wont pay for it.

    That explains why every Special Operations Force in the world (at least some of which could afford the modification) all choose other weapons. Real deal? Like every other bullpup design fielded, the SA80 is not suitable for military operations. It may be technologically advanced, but for real use in the field, it's shite.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Back then Greenhat. Figured you were being kept busy by OBL's mates...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent
    Back then Greenhat. Figured you were being kept busy by OBL's mates...

    Don't know if they're OBL's mates...but they aren't ours...
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