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Iraq agrees to the unconditional return of UN inspectors
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We can't have it both ways, that's called hypocrisy.
If Saddam did not like the terms, he should have kept on fighting, its just that simple.
The issue on the table is Iraq. You have waffled all over the globe and throughout time to avoid it. You've taken part in every thread here, but never added to any of them, just poppycock or avoidance.
Point is saddam hussein, will receive a ultimatium from the UN and he best subscribe to it...
Either that or hire you to pour out excuses..
However your excuses will do him about as much good as they do you.
Perhaps the clandestine person is already in the employ of Sodam Insane? Notice who is refered to by their last name, and who is on first name basis:
Might go far in explaining the clandestine ones role as Insane's apologist...
Your ridiculous assumptions are merely more of what reverse himself was accusing me of.
Ive yet to see any of your credentials btw.
Nor has anyone else seen yours...
Fact is, when facts show the hypocrisy of the hawks who are so clamouring for the moral high ground, they scoff at it or ignore it despite the fact that they are guilty of the same issues they wish to attack others over.
This is why i and many others on an increasing level do not subscribe to hawkish perspective and solution since they have thrown nothing but allegations at us for so long they have convinced themselves that allegations ARE fact. Believing something strongly enough doesnt make it a fact. Documented evidence proves a fact and Bush and Co. have not produced it sufficiently for many both in our congress and abroad.
People are even more incredulous when we ourselves display our double standard (i.e. Bio-Weapons maintenance and production) so visibly to the international community like we did in Geneva in July.
He agreed to very specific terms. The political decision to not continue was contingent on Saddam agreeing to those terms. A cease-fire does not end the state of war, it simply puts a temporary halt to the actions. Seems the temporary halt is about to come to an end.
As clear as the issue can be made.
You know what I have at stake in this, and that I have the highest reguard for your opinion. Do you think the U.S. military is prepared for what it will have to do in Bagdad?
Our people will be in a heavily populated urban setting. I know they will be forced to defend themselves against civilians. Ive been watching interviews with "experts".
Do YOU think it will become a situation like past situations? Putting our people at risk?
The US military has always been prepared for the task.
The problem has come when the political sycophants and parasites - such as the clandestine one - get the ear of those in power, and subvert the military with their assinine and perverse delusions.
Vietnam comes to mind, where the clandestines of that era brought about the deaths of tens of thousands of US troops with their wetdream brainfart of "constraint" and "war of attrition".
Familiar with the term "half-stepping"? Defines clandestine, who apparently studied at the Jane Fonda School of Sedition.
and btw ~ I have exactly the same "at stake" in this, remember?
That said,
The company grade officers and below can take care of any problem the Iraq can pose. The only question is the political will to wield these soldiers accordingly. The mother of all retreats will quickly be resurrected.
Do you think American militaries defeat of saddam housain will be magnificant or merely brilliant?
The soldiers and Marines are simply "clamouring" to get the job done, as quickly as it can be accomplished. The moral temporizing is the province of parasites like you... the "wordsmiths" too self-possessed in their delusions of grandeur to ever witness the moment for talk has passed them by, and their survival is dependent upon that which comes when words have failed.
You really ARE so far out of the loop that you have zero awareness of what Hussein actually has, aren't you?
Pathetic is what comes to mind. Better you should harry yourself back to the sex and drug forums, and continue your dissertation on butt plugs and vibrators, your apparent area of expertise...
As for the US Marines they are alway going through Urban training because the leadership is aware that that is the coming warfare enviroment. And case in point they very quickly will be proven right. Infact as we speak Divisions are going through a simulated Iraqi city. The US will be victorious and the world will see that the war was Justified.
Ummm, let's say we yield to your superior knowledge..
Edited because there's no need to repeat such trash..
If you want to comment on Clandestine's comments in the sex forum, do it there. This is about politics, quite frankly this seems to have deteriorated into personal insults and it cheapens the arguments.
If you can't argue the point, don't, but don't think that petty insults will win an argument...
It will be simply done.
You see, no matter what a person says, clandestine ignores it.. This statement, which is funny as hell, was ignored also..
Point is, when I read sopite's quote, I noticed it..
When you read, sopite's quote and my requote, you noticed it...
Point is, is what I've been saying, clandestine operates in a mode of self denial, ignoring all he disagrees with...
Sorry to offend you, but you did quickly make my point.
Kathy,
Soldiers and Marines will be injured. Some will die. But the numbers will still favor the US and UK by an extremely large number. An awful lot of people have pointed at Somalia as an example...and it isn't a bad one. Without armor or extensive support, a small force of Rangers and Delta inflicted hundreds, possibly a thousand casualties with the loss of 19 of their own. In Baghdad the troops will have their NVGs, they'll have their body armor, they'll have ammo resupply, they'll have armor support, and they'll have air support. No contest.
The soldiers will have protective gear, so it will be the iraqi people who suffer the most.. But that is part of saddam's plan, holding his own people hostage under threat of death..
My name is Joe and I'm an uncle to three. Also a fan of Mark Kozelek's band, Red House Painters. Put the Stalin link down to my twisted European sense of humour :cool:
Yes it was a good answer, a true one also..
"magnificant or merely brilliant" are for the news media and historians to decide, not the Warriors...
It is kind of a quandry, how does one describe the accomplishments of the tacticians..
Holding his own people as hostages is exactly what hes doing. If saddam werent such a coward hed have his weapons plants away from populated areas. I know Im stating the obvious, but to some the obvious isnt clear.
They need a better pair of glasses.:crazyeyes
For all of the clanestine one's proclaimed expertise on things political, he demonstrates that he is totally out of the loop when it comes to Sodam Insane's nuclear capability. I am relatively "out of the loop", but I have sufficient contact with those who are in the loop that I am able to listen to both what they say, and more importantly, what they do not say.
But then, perhaps that has something to do with not only what circles one travels in, but ones personal experience. The clanestine one takes pride in his resume as a wordsmith... like reverse, Greenhat, and others, I spent my time in the military, and in front line combat. What I look for is different than simply political advantage during wordgames.
What has my quote to do with anything? Because the clandestine one demonstrates how far out of his element he is concerning Sodam Insane's nuclear capability, I was inviting him to continue in an area in which he HAS a demonstrative expertise...
Not so much a "petty insult", but rather apropos, I should think. Don't you?
btw ~ concerning the authentification of that same nuclear capability? To post sources really would[/i] violate and subvert US national security. Constraints are obvious. Some of us still remember the issue of OPSEC...
Let us simply say that what must be done, must be done quickly. Otherwise, the clandestine one will fulfill his longing to emulate Jane Fonda...
Non-disclosure on "proof" that Hussein has nuclear capability? Has to do with not only proving that he has ths material, but keeping track of where it is. Critical! Remember tracking bin Laden's cell phone calls, until that was leaked? Think about it...
You are an intelligent man. Think about the probable reasons behind the sudden BIG push. THINK about it...