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Yes, I must admit I had noticed thousands of "kollectives" springing up all over the world :rolleyes:
In Argentina the economy is collapsing. So what is it taht the population are doing? Are they forming co-operatives, setting up socialist committees?
No, they are bartering, they have identified that everything has a value but that these values differ. A very basic form of capitalism and one which dates back through the history of the human race.
Whereas communism would stop anyone from buying their own home
Actually that is about materialism, not capitalism. People will pay more for something that they really want.
I presume that in our utopian communist society all houses will be identical.
Hmm, 100 seats per coach multiplied by 100 coaches equals 10,000.
POpulation of Birmingham is more than 2m
They are really going to be representative then :rolleyes:
NB Only another 490,000 people to find, if you are to hit you 500,000 target.
Remind me what it is that you actually put into society, inorder to recieve your weekly dole cheque.
What job is it that you do?
Self appointed jester/fool...
Remember British Leyland? During the '70s when it was state controlled and half the workforce was on strike, they turned out crap products that had a bad reputation for quality. The company was ruined forever. Communism may work in the case of commodities, but when it comes to consumer products, "democratic control of the means of production" just doesn't work.
Do we have a bet?
As for the 'Job Rotation' nonsense, i want my jobs to rotate between porn star, Beer tester, TV personality, Footballer, Singer and Nell McAndrew's pubic barber.
I dont want any jobs that are difficult, dangerous or in anyway get in the way of the jobs that i DO want.
And if i dont want to work, who will make me?
I await the day where David Beckham is rotated from Footballer to brain surgeon, Roy Keane becomes a Samaritan, Dale Winton becomes a proctologist and Michael Barrymore becomes an actual entertainer (sorry, a bit off topic, but i just dont like Barrymore).
Steelgate, if you held any sort or Anachist principals, you would NEVER claim the dole from the system you claim to hate.
You sir, are a hypocrite and a tramp.
Get a wash, and get a job.
By the way coming anti-war demonstration will be really massive as most people in this country know that any attack on Iraq will cause extreme suffering for the Iraqi people killing maiming and injuring tens of thousands of them! It could well be half a million strong that is no exageration!
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It isn't hypocritical to be against the capitalist state. Unless you live off of that state and enjoy its benefits, like you do.
We have said it before - your preachings mean nothing all the times you don't actually practice what you preach. You bum off the efforts of the workers. If anything that makes you no better than the landed gentry you claim to hate.
You argument is that they get fat from other people's graft. Which is exactly what you do.
Steelgate,
what about the thousands that die under Hussein's rule anyway?
The Kurds he has slaughtered with helicopters and poison gas?
The opposition groups, and likely innocents accused of being in them, that he has tortured and killed?
Or the people that suffer because of the embargo that he himself keeps on Iraq? And yes, this is the truth, if he would give up his weapons of mass destruction, the embargo would be gone.
Do you have a real answer for any of these?
Deposing Hussein will cost Iraqi lives. Leaving him in power will cost Iraqi lives too.
That happened 14 years ago. Why is it suddenly a causes belli only now? And why isn't it a reason to attack Zimbabwe, North Korea, even China, ffs?
The lives of Iraqi oppositions groups are worth more than the lives of, say, Falun Gong members why, exactly?
Last time I checked it was the UN that keeps the embargo on him. Why does he have less right to posess WMD than America, Israel or indeed any nation? Answer me that.
I agree that it would be extremely beneficial to the people of Iraq, and the area generally, if Saddam were not in power. I believe strongly however that an invasion would be far more destabilising than simply allowing the status quo to continue.
Ten Years ago for the last incident, actually.
Hadn't heard that China had used WMD against the Falun Gong, had you?
Haven't seen any blue helmets involved in the fly overs, ship stoppings, searches, etc. The UN sanctions the embargo, they don't keep it. Nations do that. As for why Saddam has less right..he's used WMD.
Well, the risk of taking him out of power is destabilizing the region. Of course, the risk in leaving him there is destabilizing the world.
And yes, I do agree with you, I think this will be a prolonged affair that likely won't be worth the trouble. It definately will result in less stability in the short term. However, the US can manage this better than anyone else. How would you like Israel to do this in about five years or so? What would the stability implications be then? They've already hit nuclear reactors in Arab nations to prevent WMD from threatening them, I guarantee if they felt threatened they would do it again, its not as if they have a lot of restraint in their foreign policy.
and old arguement, but do you mean that we shouldn't do anything in this case, because we have done nothing in those cases?
How about I throw back that we did do something in Serbia, and Germany. Does that make this action okay then?
Actually if he adheres to the terms of the ceasefire you would find sanctions being lifted.
The choice as to whether or not he complies, is his not the UNs.
Because that was the terms of the ceasefire, which he agreed to. See also Resolution 687.
So, instead of saying what shouldn't be done, why not say what should?
The war on Yugolsavia made the Kosovo Albanian refugee crisis 20 times worse and kill thousands of Serbian people and devastated the country of Serbia causing massive destruction to Serbian cities like Belgrade destroying homes, factories, railways and bridges!
After the war Kosovo Albanians took revenge on Serbs living in Kosovo creating another wave of ethnic cleansing forcing most of Kosovos' 200,000 Serb population to flee.
In World War II Britain killed millions of German civillians by carpet bombing German cities but refused to repeated calls to bomb the Gas Chambers or the railway lines leading to Aushwitz. Also during World War II in 1943 the British government took all the food out of West Bengal for use by the army, resulting in the starving to death of two million Indians!
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