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Former Member · August 2002

All i can say is that i have heard meny reliable sorces say that it is a depresant...but that doesn't mean it is and i'm just too fu*cking lazy to go find somthing to prove my point.

Former Member · August 2002

Clandestine: Who is talking about opiates. Pot has nothing to do with opiates. An opiate is a derivative of the poppy plant like "H" or opium. I think your a bit mixed up. Also I believe pot became illegal in the states in the 40's with the uprising of companys like Dupont and the film refer madness. It was connected with corperate America as much as the government in my opinion and you don't have to preach the bullshit conspiracy to me I already know it. but I really think that has little effect on how scientist today classify it regardless of nationality. It distorts perception and is therefore a hallucinogen even if its not as intense as LSD. Cigarettes are fucking stimulants but I'd hardly put them in the same catagory as cocaine. I guess this conversation is over until someone can actually find some literature to prove me wrong. And when I mean classification I'm not talking about illegal status like what shedule it is, I'm talking about scientific classification(neurological effects and symptoms). And soadfan4life: I hope your so called reliable sources are more accurate than your spelling.

Former Member · August 2002

Dude, Im not fresh off the bus. I happen to live in Europe and have been smoking far longer than youve been alive no doubt. I also didnt say it was related to opiates. I said it isnt even remotely related to opiates, meaning therefore it is not a hallucinogen. it does not distort perception. When stoned, you see things as normally as you see them when not stoned. A hullicination is a completely "false" reality unlike a slightly enhanced reality which is what you get with cannabis and its by products.

As I said, when i find something scientific that discounts this classification of hallucinagen ill post it to you.

Former Member · August 2002

Look the fact that you live in Europe is irrelovent and I've met plenty of ignorant elderly people in my life so don't throw age at me either. Opiates are a class of their own. They are not hallucinogens and they are not pot. They are derivatives of the poppy plant. I know what a hallucination is but some may say to a lesser degree hallucinations are altered perceptions and pot alters your perception(maybe not like lsd or peyote but it does). In fact if you look it up you'll find your definition is a bit extreme and hallucinations aren't always completely false reality but distorted perception. Do you ever look things up or do you always dwell in your misled European arrogance ? think back in your elderly age to when you were young and first smoked and tell me your perceptions were not altered. To sum it up I'm not the one who studies and classifies drugs and the last resource I choose to refer to when I do research the effects of drugs is the US goverment. I mean do you really think that a frequent drug user like me is going to jump to defend my nation's fucked up attitudes toward drugs?

seems not to have been employed in medieval Europe as an hallucinogen, it ...
www.cannabis.net/thc/ - 24k - Cached - Similar pages

Former Member · August 2002

Viridis, my point in mentioning that i am living in Europe was made purely to contrast the acceptance of cannabis use on an increasing scale across the continent by government and legal authorities with the blatantly paranoid view of the US Govt and subsequently US Society toward the substance. Part of this acceptance is due to the fact that no legitimate or conclusive grounds exist or have yet been produced to label cannabis as a hallucinogen, narcotic, or any other family of controlled substance for that matter.

From taking the time to do some extensive searches on the net, what I have found is nothing more than widespread disagreement over the scientific classification of cannabis and its derivatives.

For that reason, this debate could go on ad infinitum. I however side with those who view it as a substance in a category of its own. Sure, it has differing properties depending on the user and the amount consumed, but I have never once in all my years of smoking considered the effects even remotely akin to hallucination. That of course is opinion, but in this long running social debate, infformed opinion is about as weighty as any documentation out there since very little true scientific work has ever been systematically carried out anywhere for either legal, political, or emotional reasons.

I do cite this link which seems to concur with my opinion (yes, opinion) on the matter. For what its worth:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hppb/alcohol-otherdrugs/pube/straight/charts.htm

If you choose to consider it a hallucinogen, that is of course your prerogative, but I'd rahter not beat this issue to death and each other in the process. I concede that much of my perspective is based purely on personal experience and observation of other cannabis smokers.

Peace!

Former Member · August 2002

Originally posted by Turtle

And this is based on how many trips to the continent exactly?

I lived in France. They don't do the shaving thing.

Former Member · August 2002

That was much better put. Just don't assume that b/c I am American and only 27 I must be ignorant and brainwashed by government propaganda concerning drugs. Pot is a big mystery in a lot of aspects so its only logical that there is debate over its classification. It is in a sence its in a league of its own. But it also makes since when difining hallucination in a less extreme manner such as the way it was when I look it up in the dictionary that if you are going to place it somewhere hallucinogen is a logical choice. But since it does inc heart rate I can see a little sence in labeling it stimulant and since it puts me to sleep depressant works to but I don't think they are the best choice. I wasn't trying to argue that so much as to say that in studying in college I found it more commonly labeled as a hallucinogen and never as stimulant which is how you tried to label it. Maybe my society is a bit brainwashed on the textual side but at the same time we are no stranger to drugs and drug culture.

Former Member · August 2002

Re: French girls

Originally posted by viridis
I'd bet swedish people are the most conservative and Germans are nuts.

I've been out with several Swedish girls and they most certainly are not conservative. I mean they grow up on a diet of porn. I spent 18 months with one girl and I have to say it was probably the most sexually satisfying time of my life.

The least satisfying time was the 2 years I spent living in France. Talk about a dead end. If it weren't for tourists I think I'd have gone out of my mind.

Former Member · August 2002

i wouldnt mind having sex with an Italin lad, while he is screamin words that i dont even kno.. heheh:D

Former Member · August 2002

Originally posted by nelly101
i wouldnt mind having sex with an Italin lad, while he is screamin words that i dont even kno.. heheh:D

lol, pah to men being pretty quiet during sex. I can't see any bloke screaming during sex...then again I don't tend to pay that much attention to the noise they make. *blushes and giggles at memories of noises they make*

*is too noisy herself to listen properly*

*blushes more and leaves*

Former Member · August 2002

*loves when guys are noisy* But usually they are to quiet.

Be careful with Italian guys - I once had one, he told me that he was married after the third time he visited me (always when he was on a business trip in Germany). Oh god this man knew how to use his tongue

*sighs*

Former Member · August 2002

I have only slept with British men, and one from Tobago. But I am open to offers from all round the world.

Former Member · August 2002

Originally posted by PussyKatty
I have only slept with British men, and one from Tobago. But I am open to offers from all round the world.

Well, I am from south america, I speak spanish and french and I live in Quebec. Sure you will be more than welcome here!!!:p

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