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toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
i tried to end my life for the second time.
**im safe now**
so people may be wondering; are you ok now? well, im okay physically. but i dont know if im ok mentally. i should be ok, right? like, i have everything in life. i mean im ok... but am i really ok? i literally tried to kill myself yesterday. thats not normal guys. also when i came online i was bombarded by notifications so i had to make a separate post. thanks everyone for worrying about me. i shouldve reached out to a crisis service before it got to that point but to be honest with you ive had such bad experiences with childline lately and they dont really do much. ok samaritans is okay but my head wasnt thinking logically when it happened so i wasnt able to call anyone. i did call my dad but thats when i was doing the attempt because i was scared. i wasnt influenced by any voices. its just me that did this. me.
why didnt you call for an ambulance or to go A&E?
i already went to A&E last friday and they referred me to ARC Rapid Response and they came on the same day and they said if i got worse i need to call CAMHS before going to A&E again. so after i make this post im going to try and call them again to see if i actually need to go there or not. plus if i called an ambulance theyd send me to north london or essex, not hertfordshire where i live. therefore they wont have my health records. so therefore im only left with one option; to go to A&E
**again, im safe**
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  • RiverRiver Community Connector Posts: 4,452 Community Veteran
    Even if you feel physically okay you should always go and get checked out. Does an adult know what you’ve done? @toffuna101
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
    yeah. my dad knows. but he refuses to send me to A&E because he thinks that i wont get admitted into a psychiatric hospital. @River
  • RiverRiver Community Connector Posts: 4,452 Community Veteran
    @toffuna101 you can request to go in voluntarily or like a picu for mental health or look into safe houses
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • RiverRiver Community Connector Posts: 4,452 Community Veteran
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
    River wrote: »
    @toffuna101 you can request to go in voluntarily or like a picu for mental health or look into safe houses

    unfortunately im under 18 so i wouldnt qualify to go in a safe house. also i did request to go voluntarily but they still didnt admit me into a psychiatric hospital. @River
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
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  • RiverRiver Community Connector Posts: 4,452 Community Veteran
    @toffuna101 then that’s a sign that you don’t need to go into one if they won’t admit you
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
    @River honestly i think its just the way the mh system works in my county at least. its extremely hard to get admitted anyways. when i was really ill last year they were debating treating me in the community and i was losing touch with reality. they did eventually admit me to a psychiatric hospital. i think its just that my risk to self and others is not high enough. the threshold is extremely high to be admitted into one even voluntarily.
  • RiverRiver Community Connector Posts: 4,452 Community Veteran
    @toffuna101 but that’s good if your not high risk to need a place like that, most phsychiatric hospitals are awful places to be
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • eylaheylah Posts: 8,240 Legendary Poster
    if you’ve had a sucicide attempt you need to get medically checked. if you don’t want to go to a&e call 111 and explain to them.
    ppl dont always need advice. sometimes all they rly need is a hand to hold. an ear to listen. and a heart to understand them. 🧸
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
    River wrote: »
    @toffuna101 but that’s good if your not high risk to need a place like that, most phsychiatric hospitals are awful places to be

    yeah i know they can be quite awful. i was extremely lucky to be in a good psychiatric hospital last year.
    eylah wrote: »
    if you’ve had a sucicide attempt you need to get medically checked. if you don’t want to go to a&e call 111 and explain to them.

    ill call them because who knows when camhs will phone me.
  • RedemptionRedemption Community Connector Posts: 4,556 The Mix Elder
    @toffuna101 I'm glad you're safe now, please remember people care about you, please please reach out if you're ever unsafe again. I'm so so extremely sorry for everything going or gone on right now, you aren't alone, we are all here for you, you absolutely matter. Please keep safe ❤️
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
    i think my psychiatrist called my dad and said to take me to A&E again. btw i didnt get to call 111 because camhs called me straight after i sent the message on the discussion boards. and i was pretty busy after that. he'll call my dad back at 4pm because the psychiatrist's connection was pretty poor. at least i think that was my psychiatrist. i dont know who else it could be since my care coordinator already called me today. and my dad said the person who called him was a man. A&E is really not the best place for people experiencing a mental health crisis tbh.
  • eylaheylah Posts: 8,240 Legendary Poster
    if they’ve recommended going to a&e then id suggest following their advice bc they’re the professionals. i know it’s not easy and a&e isn’t a nice place but id you’ve been advised to go id suggest going especially if you have injured yourself and you may feel fine now but maybe its better to get checked out. stay safe
    ppl dont always need advice. sometimes all they rly need is a hand to hold. an ear to listen. and a heart to understand them. 🧸
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
    nevermind it was some student nurse.
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
    eylah wrote: »
    if they’ve recommended going to a&e then id suggest following their advice bc they’re the professionals. i know it’s not easy and a&e isn’t a nice place but id you’ve been advised to go id suggest going especially if you have injured yourself and you may feel fine now but maybe its better to get checked out. stay safe

    i will try to stay safe thank you @eylah <3 im not sure if im going to A&E now because it was some student nurse but ill try to convince my dad to take me to A&E because i dont feel well at all.
  • eylaheylah Posts: 8,240 Legendary Poster
    even if it’s just a student nurse bc you tried ending your life you should still go to a&e to be checked over. <3
    ppl dont always need advice. sometimes all they rly need is a hand to hold. an ear to listen. and a heart to understand them. 🧸
  • RedemptionRedemption Community Connector Posts: 4,556 The Mix Elder
    @toffuna101 I just wanted to check up on how you are now?
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,385 Wise Owl
    edited June 24
    @toffuna101 i'm really sorry for responding so late to you, but listen friend. Having everything you want in life doesn't mean your immune to mental health issues. You could have everything you dream about and still suffer mental health battles. It's an illness, just like cancer, or health conditions like that.

    I remember you talking about how childline put the phone down on you, and how slow ARC was to respond, and it's awful. And whilst A&E isn't the greatest place to be, it's the safest in the event of a mental health crisis. You are right about how awful the mental health services in this country are as well. It's tragic, but A&E always for this sort of stuff if an attempt has been made or might be made.

    But on the next point, a student nurse offering medical advice is still a professional. They wouldn't be allowed to give medical advice unless they were trained to do so. Getting yourself to A&E is still critical. Depending on how the attempt was made, it can have delayed reactions, it can have all sort of effects and impacts that need to be looked at urgently. ARC are taking the piss waiting for so long. Rapid Response my arse. There are snails, riding on the back of turtles, that have faster reaction times than arc by the looks of things. And they are only mental health, not physical health related, and you do need checking to see that your physically fine after said attempt.

    I'm glad your a bit better, and your safe, and know that we all care about you friend.
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
    Redemption wrote: »
    @toffuna101 I just wanted to check up on how you are now?

    i went to A&E today because i managed to convince my dad and you know what they did? they discharged me saying that inpatient treatment is not within my best interests. i give up with these mental health services. they think that its best for me to stay at home and in the community when in reality im not being managed in the community right now.
    @toffuna101 i'm really sorry for responding so late to you, but listen friend. Having everything you want in life doesn't mean your immune to mental health issues. You could have everything you dream about and still suffer mental health battles. It's an illness, just like cancer, or health conditions like that.

    I remember you talking about how childline put the phone down on you, and how slow ARC was to respond, and it's awful. And whilst A&E isn't the greatest place to be, it's the safest in the event of a mental health crisis. You are right about how awful the mental health services in this country are as well. It's tragic, but A&E always for this sort of stuff if an attempt has been made or might be made.

    But on the next point, a student nurse offering medical advice is still a professional. They wouldn't be allowed to give medical advice unless they were trained to do so. Getting yourself to A&E is still critical. Depending on how the attempt was made, it can have delayed reactions, it can have all sort of effects and impacts that need to be looked at urgently. ARC are taking the piss waiting for so long. Rapid Response my arse. There are snails, riding on the back of turtles, that have faster reaction times than arc by the looks of things. And they are only mental health, not physical health related, and you do need checking to see that your physically fine after said attempt.

    I'm glad your a bit better, and your safe, and know that we all care about you friend.

    thank you for the long response. i appreciate it.
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
    eylah wrote: »
    even if it’s just a student nurse bc you tried ending your life you should still go to a&e to be checked over. <3

    i managed to be checked over by a doctor before i left A&E
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,385 Wise Owl
    toffuna101 wrote: »
    eylah wrote: »
    even if it’s just a student nurse bc you tried ending your life you should still go to a&e to be checked over. <3

    i managed to be checked over by a doctor before i left A&E

    @toffuna101 I'm glad you've been checked over, but they really are the most useless bastards aren't they for mental health. There's a reason we are ranked 2nd to last in terms of mental wellbeing in the world. The best option is to keep trying helplines, go to A&E whenever suicidal, and keep engaging and pushing ARC for as much as they can do.

    It's not the same, but i had to fight tooth and nail for every single ounce of help with my brother. Transport costs to his special needs school, they cut it, it took several appeals, several legal loopholes, an entire year roughly of being told no again and again, before they caved and provided that basic support. The system relies on people being put off and giving up on support, but they can't ignore you if you always keep pushing and trying to get said support you deserve. I wish i could offer you better support, but this is the best advice i can give. Fight like crazy to get that support you need. I'm always here as are so many others to talk to about stuff.
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
    toffuna101 wrote: »
    eylah wrote: »
    even if it’s just a student nurse bc you tried ending your life you should still go to a&e to be checked over. <3

    i managed to be checked over by a doctor before i left A&E

    @toffuna101 I'm glad you've been checked over, but they really are the most useless bastards aren't they for mental health. There's a reason we are ranked 2nd to last in terms of mental wellbeing in the world. The best option is to keep trying helplines, go to A&E whenever suicidal, and keep engaging and pushing ARC for as much as they can do.

    It's not the same, but i had to fight tooth and nail for every single ounce of help with my brother. Transport costs to his special needs school, they cut it, it took several appeals, several legal loopholes, an entire year roughly of being told no again and again, before they caved and provided that basic support. The system relies on people being put off and giving up on support, but they can't ignore you if you always keep pushing and trying to get said support you deserve. I wish i could offer you better support, but this is the best advice i can give. Fight like crazy to get that support you need. I'm always here as are so many others to talk to about stuff.

    i cant believe they initially refused to give transport to your brother. i would fight to get the support that i need but if camhs are adamant that i dont need inpatient support then theres nothing that i can do. theyll just say the same thing each time i go to A&E. another way i could go to inpatient care is if i talked with my psychiatrist, but since ive only seen my current one once i dont know him that well. he'll most likely just say the same thing as well. but even if i did go inpatient theres no guarantee that ill end up in the same psychiatric hospital as i did last time. they could move me somewhere else across the country which will make my mental state even worse. so theres always that risk. therefore i think thats why they dont want me to send me to a psychiatric hospital.
  • eylaheylah Posts: 8,240 Legendary Poster
    another thing is there is literally no psychiatric beds available across the whole of the country. i know from a recent admission this year. you’ll be waiting a very long time.
    ppl dont always need advice. sometimes all they rly need is a hand to hold. an ear to listen. and a heart to understand them. 🧸
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
    eylah wrote: »
    another thing is there is literally no psychiatric beds available across the whole of the country. i know from a recent admission this year. you’ll be waiting a very long time.

    yeah and that too. i asked them if i could stay in the general hospital at least for a few days and camhs said no. so therefore they dont even want to keep me in a general hospital for my own sake.
  • eylaheylah Posts: 8,240 Legendary Poster
    tbh if you had no medical reason to be in a&e they wouldn’t keep you there bc in their eyes you’re medically fit.
    ppl dont always need advice. sometimes all they rly need is a hand to hold. an ear to listen. and a heart to understand them. 🧸
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
    eylah wrote: »
    tbh if you had no medical reason to be in a&e they wouldn’t keep you there bc in their eyes you’re medically fit.

    good point.
  • RedemptionRedemption Community Connector Posts: 4,556 The Mix Elder
    Im so sorry to hear mental health services weren't the best

    Try this
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,985 Boards Guru
    Redemption wrote: »
    Im so sorry to hear mental health services weren't the best

    Try this

    thanks for the link
  • RedemptionRedemption Community Connector Posts: 4,556 The Mix Elder
    toffuna101 wrote: »
    Redemption wrote: »
    Im so sorry to hear mental health services weren't the best

    Try this

    thanks for the link

    No problem, hope you're ok today
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