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Sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick. Anything to do with job applications stresses me out right now.
I think I'm slightly hungover nothing makes sense today.
Anyways, apparently enhanced CRB's are getting changed anyway. Apparently the Tories reckon they're too draconian, but so far they haven't taken any action yet.
What the.......?
What police force is this? You should make a complaint about such a discriminatory comment. A lot of people attempt overdoses, most people who survive turn out to be okay. This police chief must be a dinosaur.
Not every employer discriminates against mental illness, and only a select amount of jobs even require an enhanced CRB disclosure. Have you considered retraining? Fields like IT, engineering, many scientific jobs, do not even ask for a CRB check. Only stuff which involves contact or care over the vulnerable does. You can still get a job in an office, as offices don't ask for the enhanced disclosure, and if they do then they are violating the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act and possibly the Disability Discrimination Act.
Good luck on emigrating, if that's what you're doing though. What country are you thinking about going to?
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but are you talking about the armed forces here? If so, it's been made well clear that they generally don't accept people with a history of mental ill health unless it's a once-off. It's obvious why.. because you have access to live weaponry and the lifestyle (constantly away from home) is stressful, and stress + firearm may mean a mentally ill person may put himself/herself and others at risk. I don't actually think anyone disputes that?
But that's hardly the same thing as teaching, pharmacy and most other jobs that ask for an enhanced CRB disclosure. Mental illness can be managed through drugs or psychological therapies. Someone in a crisis will take time off work, much like someone with a physical illness.
What about a teaching job where the kids are working their ticket, you have had some bad stress at home, say loss of a family member and you have some form of turn. As for pharmacy jobs it has been mentioned that in some cases a previous overdose attempt can look quite dodgy on your cv, once again if for whatever reason you have a lot of stress in your life and access to drugs, its like being in the armed forces but not as bad, you said they have access to weapons and put others at risk, as far as Im aware medication could be just as harmful a weapon even if unintentionally dispensed wronglt.
It is very rare indeed that I would let my mental health issues affect my job. I would hope that if I was at the point where it WOULD, I would have been signed off well before I let myself have a "turn" at work. Plus anyone who has just lost a family member is unlikely to be at work, don't you think?
With regards to medicine and pharmacy, it IS a reasonable fitness to practice consideration to ask about mental ill-health. Not from a stress point of view but from an access to prescription drugs point of view; it's very easy for doctors and pharmacists to help themselves to powerful prescription drugs and you don't want someone with a history of substance misuse or suicide attempts having that access without a proper risk assessment.
It's not as simple as you make out. Aside from the fact that with some people, such as myself, it can take a while for it to come out and become severe, I doubt anyone who was that ill would be working.
eh? Since when did you have to put that kind of information on your CV? None of my disabilities are mentioned on my CV.
http://www.alastaircampbell.org/blog/2011/06/30/guest-blog-revealing-mental-health-discrimination-in-crb-checks/
Sorry for dragging this back up again, just thought people might be interested.
I know I've been turned down for a job before because of my history. Cannot prove it but I'd swear blind they looked at my "confidential" health questionnaire before turning me down. And there's also the case of bullying out of a previous job.
Hey ho.
Someone having a physical health problem doesn't necessarily mean they're not fit to teach, but equally, particular circumstances might make them unsuitable and that also needs to be assessed.
Someone having a criminal record doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't fit to teach, but again, it needs to be assessed.
I don't think the NHS records will show up on the enhanced CRB, but anything held by the police will (whether on the national computer, or at local stations). So anytime the police were involved, then those occasions would show up on an enhanced CRB, provided they recorded your details correctly at the time. And if you apply to be registered by the ISA then an enhanced CRB will be run.