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New FPA campaign on abortion in Northern Ireland
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Hi all,
We do a lot of work with the FPA and as a resource for sexual health advice they asked us to promote their new campaigning videos around the issue of abortion in Northern Ireland.
Now whilst the videos are simply too campaign based for the rest of the website we thought they'd still be interesting for you to see and discuss. So feel free to discuss the videos themselves, I'm sure the FPA would love any feedback, or the issues mentioned - which is always interesting (if fraught though hopefully a bit less mental than some of the youtube comments already recieved...)
Anyway - here are the toob links -
Mary's Story
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zrc4xxAMcIM
Irene's story
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4CkDA9MhBKg
Fact and fiction
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=erl-ryHeUkM
Young person's discussion group
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eAfMGHBgChg
We do a lot of work with the FPA and as a resource for sexual health advice they asked us to promote their new campaigning videos around the issue of abortion in Northern Ireland.
Now whilst the videos are simply too campaign based for the rest of the website we thought they'd still be interesting for you to see and discuss. So feel free to discuss the videos themselves, I'm sure the FPA would love any feedback, or the issues mentioned - which is always interesting (if fraught though hopefully a bit less mental than some of the youtube comments already recieved...)
Anyway - here are the toob links -
Mary's Story
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zrc4xxAMcIM
Irene's story
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4CkDA9MhBKg
Fact and fiction
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=erl-ryHeUkM
Young person's discussion group
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eAfMGHBgChg
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Political cowardice by Westminster
Because Northern Ireland has it's own say in certain legal affairs. Homoesexuality wasn't made legal here for instance until the mid-80's.
It's a society which is still dominated heavily by religious fuckwits, both Catholic and fundamental Protestant who don't support abortion. It's the same in the Republic of Ireland, abortion won't be made legal there for a lonnnng time yet.
From Youthnet's policy:
Therefore, pro-choice is the only position for a charity such as this to take, because it is the only position that allows young people to make their own decision on how to lead their lives. Pretty simple if you ask me.
On a personal note, well, there really has never been an argument from the anti-choice side based on any rational foundation whatsoever.
They are endorsing it being legal. There's a big difference between that and taking a position on the morality of abortion.
And I don't know where you get this strange idea that a charity is supposed to be unbiased. It has charitable aims, and as such, has political opinions on things that will help it achieve such aims. Would you expect Oxfam not to have an opinion on aid to Africa? Would you expect the National Secular Society not to have an opinion on faith schools? If Helen was writing up an article on the moral debate surrounding abortion, you might have a point. But this is simply a case of giving publicity to a cause that will allow the women of Northern Ireland the right to read Helen's unbiased article on the moral debate of abortion, and make their own choice. That is fully within the aims of Youthnet. And they were put up in the Politics and Debate forum, not any advice forum, which is precisely the place for people to give their political opinion on things. Do you accuse them of bias when they post people's rants on this site? No, you accept that it's an opinion placed in the relevant section, and either agree of disagree.
Just to be clear, from the Charity Commission: The only qualifier for that is that it cannot be the only reason for the charity's existance, and it must remain independent as far as party political issues go. Further:
:yes: FFS SG, get off your high horse.
Youthnet are entitled to support which causes they feel are appropriate for their aims. If you dont like it your more then welcome not use the resourses any more.