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Absolutely shocking, couldn't make it up if ya tried. I'm actually sick of explaining this stuff to you now. Read the thread again.
Sorry but you haven't explained anything to me.
Word.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2006/apr/11/comedy.pressandpublishing
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article515509.ece
'Chav' is a derogatory blanket term, and, like a lot of catch-all terms, it can promote lazy thinking. However, to equate it to 'working class' is patently absurd.
That's what I think too. I am working class and I have never been called a 'Chav' and don't consider myself to be one either.
Yeh but I also said the intentionally or unintentionally it's a swipe at the working class.
Phrases like "they live on their council estate" which has been used here seems to suggest that living on a council estate is a bad thing.
Not that they're neccessarily bad - squaddies are often chav like, but if the chips are I'd rather have them and the fox-hunting aristos with me, than a stylishly dressed Guardanista
Chavs are disliked because they're yobbish. Few people in modern British are class oriented or claim to dislike lower social classes.
Of course no-one claims to dislike lower social classes. No-one claims to be a racist either. Doesn't mean they aren't/don't.
*yawn*
Most of that labelling bollocks stops happening when you grow up a bit (usually when you leave school/college).
I think we've been through this quite a few times now.
Good job one of the taget audiences for TheSite is people in college then
And that's what makes it so much fun :yippe:
Someone else who is aiming for a career in media / journalism . I am too cynical sometimes!
However, after watching many of the interesting talks on TED, one of the basic human mental needs is to be in some kind of team. This supposedly comes from our tribal routes and a lot of people because segregated based on what football team they support, or what style of clothes they adhere to, what kind of music they listen to, what kind of job they have, whatever. It seems ingrained into us as a species, it's what makes us nationalistic and what makes us stand up in defence of our 'teammates' so to speak.
I think you can probably train people not to use labels but it is a pretty natural albeit unpleasant part of human anatomy. I mean, it has it's good side too - we can form close bonds with people in our community and it develops our protective spirit. If one of your friends has some difficulties most of us will pick up the slack to look after them.
Even after you leave college there will still be this group rivalry but probably between things such as jobs. Or even the government, there are few people that genuinely like the government and normally only criticise anyone who works for the government. I mean, I could say I know someone who is a liberal who believes people should be free to be who they like, won't prejudice against someone based on their clothes - but as soon as a debate about drug legalisation comes up they just bash bash bash on the government heh and the battlelines are drawn in the sand again.
One person's point of view: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind.html
"the third moral foundation is what's called ingroup loyalty" @ 6.20
"even when we don't have tribes we create them because they're fun - sports are to war what pornography is to sex"