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Seven-year-old girl dies in quad bike crash
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=5I2TTFQDAH015QFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2007/12/27/nquad227.xml
So I'm wondering - why aren't the parents on Bail themselves for letting two kids on the public road in the first place?
So I'm wondering - why aren't the parents on Bail themselves for letting two kids on the public road in the first place?
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Maybe the other woman was DUI?
As it happens the driver who collided with her has been charged for her death for being over the drink limit. But charging the father as well would not be out of order.
The woman's eyes would be focused to look for cars and bikes on the road, not to look for a car with two kids behind it.
Whether she was over the limit or not - I think the shear fact that those kids were never supposed to have been on the road in the first place needs to be taken into account.
I assume they don't have rear brake lights and all the other various lights a normal car or road bike would have?
Pitch black, unlit road - I blame the parents, two kids 10 and 7 on the road when the legal age is 16, with helmet and insurance ..
I'll be appalled if all that isn't taken into account and I think the parents and other adults involved need to be charged as well with something - not just blame it all on the other driver
The parents have my sympathies, but they are idiots.
Exactly the same here. It's pretty much their fault that their daughter's dead now, could have prevented it with a bit of common sense..
Because there's the possibilty she was D.U.I.
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The BBC have implied that the driver was under the influence of drink or drugs, which in these circs they will hammer her for. it does sound like the collision was inevitable though, under those circs, its just terrible the little girl died. That woman will never forgive herself, and as has been said, they shouldnt have been there in the first place.
If she'd been on a horse there wouldn't have been this "hang the parents" bullshit. She was hit by a drunk driver in a Range Rover.
Do you know the circumstances of the accident in detail? Do you know it was the Range Rover driver's fault? That she was over the limit does not necessarily mean she caused the accident.
Of course the parents of the child have been completey irresponsible idiots. Presumably it's okay to put a child in charge of a car on a public road so long as it has the lights on, then? Cars are much safer than quads so everything's dandy. It's up to the other drivers to avoid colliding with it.
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So what? She couldn't use a quad bike legally on a public road, and was unfortunate enough to find out why. What has the legality of riding a horse got to do with anything? Would you still be blaming the drunk driver if the kid had been driving a car instead of a quad bike at her parents approval? After all, a car is even more road-worthy than that? Makes not a shite of difference, it's illegal. Letting a kid drive on the road illegally is a greater crime than drinking and driving. Both should be prosecuted.
Yes the parents were irresponsible but it wasn't the fact it was a quad that caused the accident, it was the pissed up driver.
It is standard procedure to breathalyse all drivers involved in an accident regardless of circumstances and fault. If the woman was found over the limit she would have been automatically arrested, and according to our laws charged with causing a death even if she had done nothing wrong whatsoever during the accident and could have not avoided hitting the child even if sober. That's the way the law is at the moment, but does not mean the other party should always be blameless. For all we know the world's best and most careful driver, with the world's safest car and completely sober could have not avoided a collision either.
Exactly, and so everyone engaged in illegal activities during the incident should be arrested and charged too, and it should be up to the courts to decide. And in this case that includes the parents.
Maybe charge the driver for driving over the Limit but I don't think she should be charged for causing death by dangerous driving or something similar - I think if the woman driver gets a murder charge then the parents need to be charged with something - if the driver gets a lesser charge then I think the parents can be let off
What I'm getting at is I just don't think the woman driver should be on Manslaughter / murder type charges cos no sober driver would expect to drive in an unlit lane and suddenly come across 2 kids on quads behind a regular car. Just as if a kid might run out infront of you - which I've had happen to me once and they did it on purpose playing chicken with the traffic so I saw them running back and forth in my mirror as I swerved to avoid them.
some interesting new details in that article - they knew the driver and took the kid home first.
But a sober driver would be driving slowly enough along a narrow and unlit country lane to be able to stop if they come across something unexpected. Which in the country can be any number of things- I've come across escaped horses and sheep several times, for instance.
My point is that just because its illegal it doesn't mean it's the girl's or the parents' fault. Equally it might not be the other driver's fault, it could just be one of them things. It happens. The only fact we have so far is that the vehicle that hit the litle girl was being driven by a drunk.
Really? So are you suggesting all accidents that happen on country lanes are caused by drunk drivers? LOL!
I'm assuming the kids were driving really close behind their father's car and so the father's car would have blocked the view of the quads behind it.
And if he moved the girl and took her home probably caused a lot of internal damage himself.
I guess if they arrested that woman at home some time later she can claim she was sober and then had some drinks after the accident to calm her nerves.
I think I remember an episode of the practice where a drunk man has an accident and calls his lawyer and the lawyer says if you got a bottle start drinking it now in front of everyone and just claim you got drunk afterwards.
If me aunty had bollocks she'd be me uncle.
Relevant? Hardly.
She must have been travelling at a fair whack to not be able to avoid the procession. And she was drunk.