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Tell me why they DON'T deserve it though.
It's not just a case of working hard, it's a case of, as I stated before, them earning their 'commission' on the deals/money they make.
Nurses, Midwifes, etc all deserve a better deal, but as said people choose their jobs pretty much.
If you wanted to study and become an accountant, or lawyer you could do. or you could take your existing skills and become a nanny to the rich and famous and charge a packet..
I remember that Irish girl from the TV Series Hollyoaks who gave it all up to become a midwife back in Ireland. She'd already been picked out of thousands that applied, She could have stayed and made a small fortune doing TV and Modeling work.
But she chose to give it all up and become a midwife.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_20030105/ai_n9712235
Thing is, in that paragraph, you've just cleared it up for yourself:
You do it for the love of the job, to make a difference etc...
The bankers are in it for the money (and maybe they like their job too!).
THIS is the simple but important difference. Yes, you may deserve to be paid more - but to say that the bankers, working in a completely unrelated industry to yourself don't deserve their money as you're feeling badly done to, is just unfair.
But beanbag, at least you get to go home and know you've done a worthwhile job, something that has been necessary in society since caveman times, and probably have interesting stories to tell and things you are proud of. I daresay a conversation with you would be a lot more interesting than with a banker type too.
I'm sure there are lots of honest, hard working City people out there who contribute towards the wellbeing of the bank's clients but please don't tell me a chap who spends his day speculating with other people's wealth to make them even richer is more valuable to society (or deserves 100 times better pay) than a midwife.
Also Bollocks.
There is not enough money in the NHS to afford massive pay rises for nurses, midwives and the like.
And people that die on their arse get a generous severance package.
Then there is the issue of all the wealth this country has and how it is currently distributed of course.
Would YOU take substantial pay cut to increase the wages of people working under you?
Let's see how you (or anyone else) can justify this:
http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2157974,00.html
So regardless of how much more directors earn, how can anyone justify yearly increases of 37% while workers are getting no more than 3% in most cases? Why not increase everyone's wages by 37%? Directors would still be earning up to 100 times more than workers...
I'll tell you why. Because they're a bunch of greedy bastards and the pay rises have precisely fuck all to do with rewarding people and keeping them on the company, and everything with pure greed and selfishness.
If the situation ever arose, I find it hard to believe that you would actually do so.
Fair play to you if you did though.
But it isn't going to happen. People don't join the NHS, Police, Fire Service, Military, e.t.c. for the money, certainly didn't. I knew from the start that my wage would be fixed from now until I retire. I joined because of the nature of the job, nurses are nurses because they want to help people, and Firemen do it because they know they are saving lives whilst soldiers do it to protect the country.
If I WANTED to I could have stayed on at uni and done a course in buisness and could be on my way to earning hundreds of thousands a year, it's certainly what my cousin is doing. He's a year younger than me, just left uni and he's on double what I am. But he enjoys the buisness world, to me it would be pretty soul destroying stuff.
And Aladdin, sorry but bollocks, if the government said to you they were going to take an extra 40% of your wages so the slacker who couldn't be arsed at school gets a couple of quid an hour extra for mopping a floor you'd tell them to fuck off.
As for mid-wives and other public serveants, yes we deserve some more money, it's a difficult job but we knew that when we started.
The more you win for your investors the more you earn, simple really and given up until about a month ago the stock market was on a big big high its hardly surprising people made loads of money.
What isnt mentioned is a lot of that money will have been in 'stock options' and after £60bn+ was wiped off the market, how much do you think they are really worth now?
If I was earning 100k basic wage with 200k annual bonuses, on the other hand, and 95% of my company were paid slave wages...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,,2157782,00.html
Enough said, I think...
The only exceptions are those who work for the rewards, ie public serveants, where more money is earnt by putting in more hours or going for promotion.
- Get 10A*, 5As, go get a 1st from English at Cambridge, start in media/PR and you'll start on £17k.
- Get 5Cs, CCC at A-Level, don't bother with uni, go to a City brokerage firm and you can get £30-40k in your 1st year.
17K? Try 12K Although granted, I didn't go to Cambridge, I do work with people who did.
On what basis do they deserve it though? They work long hours? Me too. Thier job is stressful? Ditto. Add to that I work 13 hour shifts on my feet running round like a headless chicken, and the fact that if I mess up, a woman or her baby might die, and I still cant work out why they might deserve it.
Thats bollocks and an insult to all the people who work bloody hard and dont earn massive salaries. And their not all public sector workers, plenty of private secotr employees slog thier guts out daily and could never dream of earning anything like £100k.
It seems the basis of the capitalist system is about telling everyone that myth, that everyone can get rich just as long as they work hard enough. Its not true though, is it? Anyone might be able to, but not everyone can, thats the truth of how capitalism works, only a very few people can. But because we all buy into the dream, we dont get angry when some people earn obscene amounts of money, because secretly we hope it will happen to us one day.
Sour grapes.....?
Seriously, media/PR is a saturated buisness, every other person at uni is doing media or a variation of it, you'll only earn the mega bucks if you stick at it for a few years and rise above the rest.
From what I understand, £30k in London isn't really that much, starting wage for police with London weighting is £26k.
And your argument doesn't stand up, if it was as easy as you imply everyone would be flunking out of college and becoming brokers. Noone tells you about the sheer number of hours you have to work, i've heard 15-16 a day isn't uncommon. When you do the maths that works out at £8.30 an hour before tax, yearly I earn a lot less but i have great hours and no stress at all.
Beanbags, i'm not insulting the blue collar people who do as best they can at school and then go onto working in a factory or whatever. What i'm saying is that if they stick at it long enough opportunities with much better prospects will open up. You can't just turn up in London and walk into Citibank and earn £30k from the outset, methinks a lengthy probation/apprenticeship would be in order first with wages much lower.