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but yes i admit i was very irresponsible over the last week but sure i'll worry about that... but carefully mixing alco and benzos can give a nice buzz
the main problem with benzos and drink is respiratory despression, fallin asleep and not gettin back up
Because mixing benzos with alcohol makes it much more likely.
If you want my opinion, you're daft. IME, people who like to mix benzos and booze fuck themselves up quite quickly.
There are several problems with mixing benzos and booze. Mixing the two tends to lead to very disinhibited and often agressive behaviour. Its also very likely that you won't remember how many benzos you took and may very well take more than you intended. You will very likely also drink more than you intend. When you crash out for the night, the likelihood of you inhaling and choking on your own vomit is massively increased as is the danger of respiratory depression or cardiac depression. I haven't even started on how habit forming benzos are.
Be careful folks.
I'm sure it is fun, otherwise people wouldn't do it. However it is not "relatively harmless".
I was addicted to benzodiazepines for over 5 years. They were pretty much the first drug i started taking, then i shifted onto stimulants and then needed more and more benzos to come down. I ended up spending most of 2006 in a rehabilitation unit detoxing off a dangerously high dosage. Detoxing from a benzo habit is awful. I cannot even begin to explain how horrendous it is. Some people say it is worse to withdraw off benzos than it is heroin, which sort of says a lot.
You build up a tolerance to benzos, 10mg becomes 20mg, becomes 40mg, etc and towards the end i could eat them like smarties with NO effect. I might as well have thrown my money down the drain. However, i couldn't just STOP taking them (trust me, i tried with disastrous results) so the agony went on. So i was shipped off to rehab. 5 weeks later, i was detoxed fully! I lived clean and sober for 2 further months and then, being the genius that i am, i decided to take some pills. I took a certain amount and thought that since my habit was a lot larger than the amount i took beforehand, i'd be fine.
I was still in treatment at the time, and i grassed myself up after i did it, because i knew i would get caught and i began to feel the effects VERY quickly. The amount i took wouldn't have touched the sides when i had a habit, so i was sure everything would be hunky dory. The nurses had to monitor me to make sure i hadn't taken too much and that night i lost consciousness. I lost 3 days. I don't remember going to the hospital, i don't remember the drips and the respirator and the fighting with security when i came round. I don't remember throwing up over myself, or rambling incoherently and i don't remember fitting while the drug tried to leave my system. If i hadn't been monitored i would be dead, if i would have taken the pills with alcohol, i would certainly be dead.
Benzos are fun, if taken safely, and in moderation. I have no qualms about people using them, but making a post declaring how you took such and such amount and how great it was is irresponsible. Benzos are HIGHLY addictive. I actually started buying them illegally after my doctor told me she wouldn't prescribe me any because of the addictive properties. I sure showed her. :rolleyes:
I'm not saying everyone who takes them is going to become addicted, they won't but it is possible and it is scary. If people are going to take benzos, and you don't know your tolerance i strongly suggest taking a small amount WITHOUT alcohol to see how they effect you. Please don't assume you can go on a benzo bender taking 350mg in a few days, because you will die.
Hello, my name is ballpointpen and i am an addict.
This is true. It is worse. It can kill you. At the very least you'll have fits and possible psychosis. Heroin withdrawal is far less dangerous.
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That was a bloody good post. Bloody good.
might i mention that is by far not a regular occurance.. and i only even made this thread cuz i was still fucked .. and laday jade is there any chance of fixing the thread title name? lol
Here here. So much more powerful when its a personal experience like ballpoints.
Shit sorry, that was misleading.
I was taking 10mgs, then another 5 a few hours later. Doubt i could work after taking 3 together.
I havent done for a month or so now though. When i think about it, its pathetic. I only did it coz i felt i needed to, just to get through the day, but then where do you draw the line? Why do it one day and not the next? Then you end up doing every day, then all day,.....
And what about when you come home at night and really do just wanna chill out, if you're living on it then you cant just pop a couple down ya trap.
Nope, i save it for when i really need it.
I have to take them to feel normal, 60mg in one go will barely have a noticeable effect. And to anyone who doesn't know, thats a lot.
I've been up to 200mg a day. Unreal as it sounds its true and I'm not proud.
Cold turkey off them makes you shake and twitch uncontrollably.
Good buzz if you take one or two every now and again... extremely addictive and I've seen them make a right mess of some people.
I wouldn't wish benzo addiction on my worst enemy.
ive a friend who im very concerened about at the minute actually
You feel so much more mental clarity stopping them.
Can't wait to get off them and just use them to chill every once in a while.
Superb Post
I was in exactly the same boat but i cold turkey'd myself after 5 years of high dosage - It was the worst experience of my life
Im now left with Anxiety due to Diazapam abuse
To people taking it - only do it once in a blue moon and NEVER get into a situation where you take it every time you go out or you'll end up hooked
Treat with care and it's a fun drug
u reckon it's worth even taking them once in a while after that?
eta: thats a question out of pure curiosity, not an "i know whats best hypothetical" =P
whats it like ?
Its a long acting anti-anxiety tablet, that should be used for short amounts of time.
Most people would take 2mg 3 times a day, or 5mg 3 times a day. It makes you feel calmer, more relaxed, and you dont get as wound up and ratty. Its not meant to take an immediate effect, its not a tranquilliser, but it lasts four probably approx 3-4 hours.
you can get them on prescription, but it's also possible to get them through other sources, which are illegal.
I know that you shouldn't withdraw from benzos suddenly because of the risks, but 6 - 12 months sounds a bit extreme. I was told by my drugs worker that i had to detox in the community from 200mg a day - 70mg a day in order to be accepted into a rehabilitation programme. That i agree was dangerous, because i was not given any advice on how to do it. However, once in rehab, i was detoxed fully off of the 70mg in 5 weeks. I would have hated to dragged it out for 12 months!
generally they only give 2 and 5's out on prescription because the blue ones (10mg) blow the head off you.. unfortunately the place often ends up flooded with them and they cost next to nothing, really easy to end up eating stupid amounts
theyre good fun if you take them sensibly with a bit of drink (bit of a contradictory sentance i suppose) .. gets you quite fucked.. they don't do too much on their own ive found, even in higher doses (apart from memory loss and feelin a wee bit funny) .. in sayin that it definitely varies from person to person .. my ma's took 2mg before and been out of it!
theyre also handy for the day after a heavy night when your heads up your arse from taking drugs.. has a sort of numbing effect, just bang a load and sit somewhere and chill for a few hours.. turns you into some sort of zombified cabbage tho - make sure you have nothing to do that day!
as for where they're sourced.. loads come from internet sites and there can be some fakers about sometimes.. but the proper ones are stolen from the likes of hospitals etc.. how people manage to get them ive no idea
im doing some filing at work )whilst on here because my manager is away) and just filing away some medical sheets and some of our service users take diazepam