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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
"Putting all the drug dealers/junkies of this world upon an unused island and nuking them would benefit the rest of us"

please discuss <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

I personally cnt stand drugs, i dont see the attraction of stimulating your body to react in a way you cannot control and therefore becoming someone are arent. however call me a hypocrite because i dont mind drinking. BUT...drinking wont kill you unless you dont stop and no matter what anyone says, all drugs have the potential for death (even cannabis, we dont know enough about it yet for anyone to say it cant)

cant stand smoking either...why have:

screwed lungs
bad breath
yellow teeth
bad skin
induce wrinkles
smelly clothes
mood swings when you're not on it

...just to lose weight, which is the primary reason people start smoking

oh and as for the "cool" factor of smoking - id rather not kiss an ashtray <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

md <highly controversial and wants to be the stimulus for some thought tonight <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif">&gt;

call me satan <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/angryfire.gif"&gt;
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    More people die of drink than any other drug in use in this country. If you were to kill all of the 'junkies' that ever existed, the world would be void of almost all art, including literature, poetry and music.
    No further point needed.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    literature - more work in english
    poetry - sucks, most dont rhyme and could be said normally anyway
    music - nope i dont think every artist is a junkie

    point needed

    more people die of drink because its available more readily. as a percentage of users, more people die of drugs

    remember if you're gonna quote stats, make them fair all round eh <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;

    call me satan <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/angryfire.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by MasterDevilish:
    literature - more work in english
    poetry - sucks, most dont rhyme and could be said normally anyway
    music - nope i dont think every artist is a junkie

    point needed

    more people die of drink because its available more readily. as a percentage of users, more people die of drugs

    remember if you're gonna quote stats, make them fair all round eh <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;



    Uuuur where do u get your information? Its totally untrue that more people die from using drugs than alchol, sorry but that a fact. Killing all the dealers etc wouldnt benefit the rest of us because what about those with Multiple sclerosis (sp?) who smoke the reefer for pauin releif and its the only releif they get. Or those who take ecstacy for parkinsons because it controls some of the symptoms.
    I will also call u a hypocrite, like u asked because to state that u dont understand people wanting their body to react in a way they cant control and then saying u drink is a complete contradiction. I have to say that I feel more in control on drugs than I do when Im pissed, this might just be me but I no for a fact that Ive had more nights that I cant remeber when Ive been drunk than I ever have had on drugs!
    Loosing weight isnt always the primary reason people smoke...it wasnt for me anyway!Fair enough u dont wanna kiss an ashtray, I dont either but i do think an ashtray is slightly worse to kiss than a person who smokes lmfao!

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i said PERCENTAGE of users

    think, one million people drink, 10 people die

    a hundred people take E's, 10 people die

    higher percentage in the second, so more people die from taking drugs for the user percentage

    killing the dealers would be great, id have much joy in that

    there are other relaxants other than draw for MS sufferers and draw is acceptable in some places anyway

    yes i admitted to being a hypocrite, so... WHAAAAAAAAAAT u sayin thats new exactly?

    unless u dnt smoke im not sure u wud know how bad it is kissin some bird that does...its worse in clubs... and some ppl notice it a lot. im one of those ppl and just dnt like it, sorry

    call me satan <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/angryfire.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ok MasterDevilish how come pure heroin dosen't damage a single cell in your body, it dosen't damage your mind and it dosen't damage any cells, it's safer than sugar.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by MasterDevilish:
    "Putting all the drug dealers/junkies of this world upon an unused island and nuking them would benefit the rest of us"

    please discuss


    How thew fuck are you ment to discuss that?

    "100 ppl take pills and 10 die" - that bollocks! I've done hundreds of pills so I should be dead a 50 + time over if that was the case.

    If drugs were really so bad why do think everyone does them. Many drugs like Pot and Ecstasy are no worse than drinking.

    Although I smoke I agree that smoking stupid. Smoking pot on the otherhand is not physically addictive like fags. It does carry a small risk though but so does everything in this world.

    You're too straight mate. Lighten up! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;




    Forwards ever, Backwards never - Skive
  • Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Mega Poster Posts: 2,822
    Originally posted by Skive'n'Dive:
    You're too straight mate. Lighten up! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    just coz someone doesnt smoke or take drugs, doesnt mean they need to "lighten up" and start doing them! thats stupid.

    im with you MD, only i know you wont get people on the drugs board agreeing with you, they'll find facts to disprove you.

    "That which does not kill us makes us stronger."
    ~ Nietzsche

    [This message has been edited by Girl-From-Mars (edited 06-07-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Skive'n'Dive:
    Many drugs like Pot and Ecstasy are no worse than drinking


    my apologies, but wtf <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    much as i like my pills there is no way you can tell me they are doing the same amount of harm as drinking does. i realise thy're still a fairly recent entity but the damage they have already been found to cause is actually fairly well documented, look it up. i still see it as a risk worth taking mind, but i doubt anyone who's ever taken one would dissagree there <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    [This message has been edited by Zim zimmer (edited 06-07-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hang on a minute here,

    On average 3 million people used Ecstasy every weekend (that being 2 tablets a person minimum) and since 1989 there have been approx 80 deaths in the UK. These deaths occur from heat stroke or over-hydration which although assisted by the drug its not primarily its fault and these are heavily documented in the press (noticably 'Killer Dance Drug Ecstasy') but regularly dramatise an already tragic event with phrases such as 'never tried drugs before' or 'a-grade school student'. As a final comparison the percentage rate for ecstasy would be about 0.0002 per cent on the basis of around 1.5 deaths every two months since 1989.

    I am or never will say that its safe as that would be false, however no drug is safe but in percentages its not that bad.

    The following represent the best estimates of the total number of deaths from drug use involving the following drugs in England and Wales from 1995 to 1999 (excluding suicides and undetermined poisonings), which vary as indicated. No differentiation is made as to whether the underlying cause of death was drug dependence, accidental poisoning/overdose or (as with most ecstasy deaths) simply related to the drug use.

    Cocaine 227
    Amphetamine 213
    Ecstasy 78
    Solvents 366 (UK, 1993 to 1997)
    Opiates (heroin, morphine & methadone) 4743
    Alcohol 200,000 - 400,000 approx.
    Tobacco one million plus approx

    I agree with you about dealers, 90% of the time you can't be sure just what your taking and this is wrong, however if the industry went legit and was regulated I'm sure the death rates would drop and everything would be safer.

    [This message has been edited by Justin Credible (edited 06-07-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ok ok

    so all drugs are safer than alcohol and E's are so safe that hardly any dies from them...er...WRONG.

    have a beer, what are the chances of dying?

    have an E, what are the chances of dying?

    ah hah, thought so, more chance in the second case

    so you can all go onto your little island and have all the crack, smack you like and the rest of the world can watch in ecstacy (ah what a pun) as your population decreases steadily whilst the rest of us sit back, chill with an ice cold beer and...er... stay alive <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    <pssst as for needing to "lighten up", have a guess why i posted such a topic on this board - i want these kind of replies...guess you're too spaced out to realise that eh <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif">&gt;

    call me satan <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/angryfire.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Girl-From-Mars:
    just coz someone doesnt smoke or take drugs, doesnt mean they need to "lighten up" and start doing them! thats stupid.


    I didn't say he should start doing them I just thought that he's a bit OTT in the way he treats people who do drugs and thats why he needed to lighten up. I don't think he wants a discussion here he want's an argument.

    Just because I do drugs dosn't really make me any different than you. Were not Evil, Weird or Stupid (as a lot of people seem to think)! We just think it's worth the risk. You only live once and I want have the most fun I can.

    Cheeres for thos stats JC cause I needed my point proven.

    We don't cuss you for not doing drugs so don't cuss us for doing them.

    Forwards ever, Backwards never - Skive

    [This message has been edited by Skive'n'Dive (edited 06-07-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Mmmm...i agree w/ the guy in the 1st post (sori 4got ur name) - i h8 kissin guyz after the've smoked..sori but it's pretty *DISGUSTING*
    luv
    me

    i'm on my way down now...i'd like 2 take u w/ me <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/FIREdevil.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    so all drugs are safer than alcohol and E's are so safe that hardly any dies from them

    I certainly never said that.

    have a beer, what are the chances of dying?

    Depends, are we on about ALL the drink/driving deaths along with all violence or just alcoholics?

    have an E, what are the chances of dying?

    about 0.002% on current statistics

    so you can all go onto your little island ... whilst the rest of us sit back, chill with an ice cold beer and...er... stay alive

    Your arguement is now getting imature. I do agree with some of what your saying, but now your getting petty. The problem is that the drugs culture is increasing and people who have views like your own are stopping society getting the eduction and help it requires. People need to grow up and accept that people do enjoy using drugs for recreational purposes, so instead of trying to punish people why not educate them on safe methods or on rehabilitation.

    pssst as for needing to "lighten up", have a guess why i posted such a topic on this board - i want these kind of replies...guess you're too spaced out to realise that

    I enjoy debate, I like hearing peoples views and discussing opinions, but I like constructive debates, if you don't like something then fine but you can at least justify your arguements in a mature and constructive manor. As far as I'm concerned you've undermined your arguement by being childish.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    every year at least 100 people go into a coma and die from just one nights drinking.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    2 points,
    Firstly, I must admit I was amazed at the number of deaths caused by coke, I didnt think that it was higher than alot of others,
    Second point,
    If they legalised it then the drugs being issued could be a) checked, as the majority of deaths are due to crap being added, and b) could make loads and loads and loads of money for the N.H.S. thru tax on them.
    And just a minor point, which artists exactially arnt on drugs, or have not been? (music)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MD, I respect (but disagree with) your opinion, but let's not get into name calling here.

    One thing that I'm curious about...you say you don't have any experience with drugs, yet you feel very stongly about this subject...strong enough that you are willing to offend others. I guess I'd like to know how drugs have affected you to make you feel that way.Have you known addicts or had one in your family? Did you grow up in a bad area?

    I want to say again that I don't question your opinion your choice not to use drugs, but as a recovering addict, I wonder why you feel that I deserve to be dead?

    Burnout
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Girl-From-Mars:
    just coz someone doesnt smoke or take drugs, doesnt mean they need to "lighten up" and start doing them! thats stupid.

    im with you MD, only i know you wont get people on the drugs board agreeing with you, they'll find facts to disprove you.


    Very wrong gfm. Its not that I wont agree with him on some things. Im not saying that drugs r good, or u should do em or anything like that coz Id be a fool if I did. I agree that they r bad for u, and I also think if u r able to have fun without u should. However I dont think its true to say everyone would benefit from all drug dealers being shot....because thats simply not true. Its also not true to say all people start smoking to loose weight.
    Why is it people think that just coz u take drugs u r all for them and cant see no wrong, it really winds me up coz I for one know they have done me few favours in life and also no the danger and just coz I take them and post on here dont mean Im instantly gonna disagree with anyone who posts bad stuff about drugs!

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Justin Credible:
    so all drugs are safer than alcohol and E's are so safe that hardly any dies from them

    I certainly never said that.

    have a beer, what are the chances of dying?

    Depends, are we on about ALL the drink/driving deaths along with all violence or just alcoholics?

    have an E, what are the chances of dying?

    about 0.002% on current statistics

    so you can all go onto your little island ... whilst the rest of us sit back, chill with an ice cold beer and...er... stay alive

    Your arguement is now getting imature. I do agree with some of what your saying, but now your getting petty. The problem is that the drugs culture is increasing and people who have views like your own are stopping society getting the eduction and help it requires. People need to grow up and accept that people do enjoy using drugs for recreational purposes, so instead of trying to punish people why not educate them on safe methods or on rehabilitation.

    pssst as for needing to "lighten up", have a guess why i posted such a topic on this board - i want these kind of replies...guess you're too spaced out to realise that

    I enjoy debate, I like hearing peoples views and discussing opinions, but I like constructive debates, if you don't like something then fine but you can at least justify your arguements in a mature and constructive manor. As far as I'm concerned you've undermined your arguement by being childish.


    U took the words right outta my mouth...well said <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fat_Mike:
    ok MasterDevilish how come pure heroin dosen't damage a single cell in your body, it dosen't damage your mind and it dosen't damage any cells, it's safer than sugar.

    erm, how the hell did u come up with that???

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    you all take it as though i have something against drugs and hey wait, we have a pyschiatrist asking if someone in my family has been a user....riiiight ok

    fact one:
    drugs are baaaaaad mmmmmkay

    fact two:
    abuse anything and you're going to end up in a bad way

    my argument (not arguement btw)
    drugs dont need to be abused to be fatal. drugs are hit and miss. theres no guarantee you're going to be alive after taking a pill, snorting a line or doin heroin. it is a fact that one drink will not kill you. no chance, no way, never gonna happen.

    someone mentioned about driving or something? er...right, even one drink isnt enough to put the majority of people over the limit but one E wouldn't really make for a safe journey home now, would it?

    im saying drugs arent safe in that they could potentially lead to death. leave out pot, draw or wateva you call it as its the lowest form or drug, *probably* less harmful than smoking (not the tobacco - the rat poison, paint stripper that is put into the cigarette to make it burn longer. dont believe me? ya shud <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif">)

    and no matter what you say, you cant argue with that. so therefore, drugs are bad (mmmkay)

    <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    call me satan <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/angryfire.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lil_jo because its the truth, all the problems associated with smack are because its illegal, sugar rots your teeth and makes you fat. the only bad thing about smack is that it is addictive, it dosen't damage your body at all. dirty street smack is bad for you, pure clean clinical smack is quite safe.
  • Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Mega Poster Posts: 2,822
    lolly if you were aiming the thing about shooting drug dealers, well i dont beleive that should happen. especially not sticking everyone addicted to drugs onto an island. my mum would be there for one. okay so its a prescription drug but its kinda the same. from talking to her i CAN understand some of the feelings people have when theyr'e addicted to drugs, whatever kind. i dont just think all people that use drugs are bad. dealers who try and get people started on drugs, them i have a problem with.
    Originally posted by lolly:
    Why is it people think that just coz u take drugs u r all for them and cant see no wrong, it really winds me up coz I for one know they have done me few favours in life and also no the danger and just coz I take them and post on here dont mean Im instantly gonna disagree with anyone who posts bad stuff about drugs!

    well im glad you can still keep an open mind, i know there HAVE been people here who blindly support everything to do with drugs and their argument is that people who havent taken drugs ever jsut cant understand and therefore arent allowed an opinion. its them i have a problem with, people who havent tried drugs can still empathise and put themselves in the situation, and can still have a reasoned and mature attitude towards why they feel the way they do, imho.
    Originally posted by MD:
    drugs dont need to be abused to be fatal. drugs are hit and miss. theres no guarantee you're going to be alive after taking a pill, snorting a line or doin heroin. it is a fact that one drink will not kill you. no chance, no way, never gonna happen.

    thats exactly what i think. thats how it came across to me as what you meant, MD. its all very well to say that alcohol kills.. but its not on the same proportions. youd have to drink a hell of a lot to get yourself into a coma from just drinking alcohol. yes there are violent acts related to alcohol, but not all violent acts are caused by drunk people, and not all drunk people commit violent acts. yes drunk driving causes problems and should definitely be wiped out. but its no reason to bam alcohool just because some people are reckless and very bad judgement about when they should drive and when they shouldnt. and ALL drugs impair driving to some extent, i would definitely not want to bein a car with someone wasted on whatever kind of drug, or meet a similar driver on a road somewhere. driving whilst under the influence of any drug, alcohol included, should be cracked down on, i think.

    as for heroin not damaging the body... i found this site from plymouth university discussing the dangers of addiction and withdrawal, and potential long term effects from this drug:
    http://area51.upsu.plym.ac.uk/~harl/graphical/opiadang.html

    the general effects of heroin can be seen here: http://area51.upsu.plym.ac.uk/~harl/graphical/opiaeffe.html

    it states that high doses can induce unconsciousness/coma from the sedation effect, and in some cases, death.

    summing up the effects of heroin:
    • HIV/AIDS - due to sharing of needles
    • Poisoning - from the addition of toxin to the drug
    • Hepatitis - liver damage
    • Skin infections - from repeated intravenous injections
    • Other bacterial and viral infections
    • Increase risk of stroke
    • Collapsed veins
    • Lung infections

    a general comment about heroin, (and all drugs) damaging the body... if you put any toxin into your body its going to increase the strain put on to your liver and kidneys which are responsible for filtering the blood and excreting substances in the urine. so heroin can damage the liver in this way, much the same as alcohol can. so fat mike, your comment about heroin not damaging the body is wrong.

    "That which does not kill us makes us stronger."
    ~ Nietzsche

    [This message has been edited by Girl-From-Mars (edited 07-07-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    but you see gfm, by giving a definitive reply and argument it means we dont get any more amusing comments such as "heroin is the new cure for the common cold - two spoonfuls of suger helps the heroin go down..." etc <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;

    call me satan <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/angryfire.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    girl from mars all these things u said about heroin

    HIV/AIDS - due to sharing of needles

    Poisoning - from the addition of toxin to the drug

    Hepatitis - liver damage

    Skin infections - from repeated intravenous injections

    Other bacterial and viral infections

    Increase risk of stroke

    Collapsed veins

    Lung infections

    are because its illegal, if it were legal and perscribed from a doctor none of those things would happen, dirty street heroin is a totally different drug than clean clinical heroin.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yeah good one

    so heroin is legalised and suddenly the needles available increased ten fold? riight, nice logic there

    so with "clean, clinical heroin" (which doesnt exist because pure heroin kills you anyway) people wouldnt be addicted, wouldnt get strokes <yawn> yeah you can see where this is going

    like 100% alcohol (ethanol), 100% heroin will kill you, straight up <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    so legalise it and watch the numbers drop some more <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; no need for the nuke then, which would end up bein pretty expensive both financially and to the atmosphere <eg>

    call me satan <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/angryfire.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MasterDevilish u don't have a fucking clue what u r talking about.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    courrrrrse not, cuz u seem so bright and every1 respects what you say <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    so tell me, how good for me is "clinical" heroin? gonna make me into superman? solve the third world crisis? please, do tell

    call me satan <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/angryfire.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think we all know that heroin is hardly good for u is it? Fat-mike might like to think it is but unfortunatly thats not the case. If the only thing bad about it is that its extremly addictive...well dont u thiunk thats enough on its own anyway. Personally I fucking hate heroin, Ive seen it wreck people lives just as I have with other drugs. To say that theres nothing bad about heroin is pathetic, and ignorant.
    The only thing that is considered a good things with heroin is the fact its a pain killer both in body and mind. The fact it is soooo addictive means there dont even need to be any other bad qualities...that alone makes it a dirty shitty life ruining drug. Also how about the fact it is really easy to OD with heroin...would u not consider that a bad qaulity?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There is a form of heroin used in hospitals that dosn't carry any risk except for dependency and overdose. It's somewhat different to the brown you get on the streets. In my view though Heroin is bad shit whatever form it's in.

    Why does everyone treat all drugs the same? Each drug is different to the next. Some are more dangerous to health than others. Why are fags still legal too buy at sixteen when they are 25 times more addictive than heroin and just as damaging in the long run.

    Drugs (including alcohol) are not safe, nothing is. I drive a car, I work in a job using heavy machinery, I often cross a busy road. Life is dangerous all round.

    If you choose not to do drugs fair enough, but I think that people in this country should have the right to choose what they consume. What right have the government got to make it illegal to grow a plant (cannabis) or to pick Mushrooms. I think it stinks!

    Forwards ever, Backwards never - Skive
  • Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Mega Poster Posts: 2,822
    Originally posted by MasterDevilish:
    but you see gfm, by giving a definitive reply and argument it means we dont get any more amusing comments such as "heroin is the new cure for the common cold - two spoonfuls of suger helps the heroin go down..." etc <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;


    lol i know, sorry... <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; but mike still seems to think that liver damage, skin infections from injecting at all, increased risk of stroke due to high blood pressure, collapsed veins and lung infections are caused purely because the drug is illegal! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif"&gt; do you think that might be why?! and the fac that its so addictive and like lolly said, so easy to overdose.

    but i agree with skive, i dont think that we should be prevented from growing cannabis or picking mushrooms.

    "That which does not kill us makes us stronger."
    ~ Nietzsche
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