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I dont think any political party supports the legalisation of cannabis. I wish one of them would, and I would be likely to vote for them. I think there is a strong appetite amongst the public for the legalisation of cannabis (maybe even all drugs) as the current system of criminialistion of drugs just isnt working. But no political party has the balls to stand up and say something which may sit uncomftably with some sections of society.
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You said,in reference to cigarettes:
You are arguing that the balance should be between the most violent armed group on this island and ,to quote you again, "very nasty people".
Sophie`s choice ?
This is one of those government posts you are so fond of isnt it. If I understand your meaning you are suggesting that the UK government is nastier than right-wing paramilitaries in Colombia? I fully accept that the current government is fairly nasty but they havent got quite to that level.
You'll have to forgive me for not taking that view point all that seriously.
No, their system is still crap, its just less crap than ours. There is still no quality control in terms of cannabis, and the trade is still largely in the hands of nasty criminals.
What they are doing very differently is handling heroin use properly.
I saw that :yes: .
David Cameron was a idiot to not take on board to points Jonathon Ross was making. I think its the first time I have seen JR be serious. He really did seem to speak for the audience who agreed legislation isnt working. Like JR said he can go outside and buy whatever illegal drugs he wanted on any street corner.
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I'm sure David Cameron knows that.
Oh yeah he likes an odd spilff doesn't he ?
OK, so we agree then, purchasing illegal drugs isnt ethical.
We all agree that illegal drug trade has very bad consequences for a lot of people. What can be done about it? One of two things:
A) the government legalises drugs
the people stop using drugs
Only one of those positions is per nature wrong and unethical: namely A.
Therefore the only acceptable solution, ethically or otherwise, is for the government to change its ways. Not the people.
I agree, but just because the governments position is unethical doesnt make up for people funding mass murder. I think if more people really knew where their cocaine money was going they would use it less, or maybe they wouldnt but they should still know.
No forgiveness is necessary.
Your view seems somewhat obscured.
If you had a fuller picture available you may form the opinion that ALL those gangs are "nasty". By labelling one of them government doesn`t make it less so.
There is also a tendancy for the biggest ones to work together and at least you recognise the biggest. (You just don`t consider them "nasty"; big is best in Buddaland ? )
To take your example of cocaine, cocaine producers and distributors require enforcer watchdogs such as the Drug Enforcement Administration (BIG gang)to keep out new lower- cost entrants to the market. General Manuel Noriega( the head of Panama`s biggest gang) received an award from the DEA for his cooperation in the "Drug War". Noriega served the Medellin cartel( big gang) and kept out Cali competitors by turning them in to the DEA. The DEA was happy, Noriega was happy, and the Medellin cartel was happy.
In Costa Rica the CIA(BIG gang) provides air transport to the biggest local gang who run a lucrative trade in illicit substances. In other locations other agencies are similarly involved. The NSA, through the NPO (National Programs Office), provided secure storage for cocaine in its network of secure warehouses across the US. In another country, the DIA operates a drug manufacturing facility. Similar statements can be made about the British, French, and Israeli intelligence services. The "War on Some Drugs" provides black market funding for the covert agencies, and justifies the need for them to provide intelligence to fight the "War on Some Drugs".
Matt is consistantly very good. I have no idea how he does it day after day.
One can but hope. If Karma exists, that person is in for one hell of a ride.
Once again the law proves it is not on the side of people. I can see people getting fed up with the state of this counry soon. This story just highlights the problem - I bet if an high level MP was found to be doing the same, he wouldn't end up like this.