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However there is a simple way of avoiding having to do cold turkey in prison........
Dont commit the crime and you wont end up in there!
Its prison not a fucking holiday camp.
Simple!
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Perhaps if we didnt have such obviously stupid laws regarding drugs many people wouldnt end up in jail.
Why the hell should the taxpayer be paying to compensate them for their human rights infringments ?? I sure as hell dont want my taxes spend on it.
Or do you admit there is such a thing as cruel and unfair punishment?
So you think withholding prescibed medication is OK because someone has "broken the law"?
I would expect them to go to prison.
People have to learn to accept the consequences of their actions. Prison is about being punished, its not supposed to be a ride in the park.
And are you suggesting those who get convicted and go to prison do not have the right not to be tortured?
Shame Saddam is no longer in power. You would have enjoyed life as a prison guard in Iraq.
People in Iraq were tortured under Saddam Hussein in a terrible way. I would be the first person to defend prisoners in the UK if they were being tortured like that, but their not!!
And no, I wouldn’t enjoy being a prison guard in Iraq, because I enjoy being able to voice my opinion in a democratic society! I believe in free speech and am happy I live in a country where this issue can be debated openly.
However these prisoners aren’t the first people to go cold turkey. You can quit taking drugs without methadone.
Yes its hard, but prison is supposed to be hard!
Yes, and you can be safely operated upon without anesthetic. But that's not the point is it?
Prisons are hard fucking places enough without withdrawing medication from sick people. Let's not pretend otherwise.
Nor that it would be justified to withdraw medication AND CAUSE UNNECESSARY SUFFERING even if prisons were 5 star hotels. That's not what a civilised, decent society does.
For fuck's sake... :mad: :mad: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Enough said
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Errr, well yes i do, but if you read my post in full, i clearly stated they should be treated for their addictions if they are infact dependant on drugs. My point was about criminals who commit a crime and go to jail for it and then no longer have access to their drug of choice for club, social occassions or relaxing with at home, in the same way they do not have television, a microwave or a mp3 player...you did get that point right? Especially how i said in clearly written English how no drug addict should be refused treatment and they should get it when they need it? I mean, its like you read what ever you wanted to read just so you could post something argumentative and act like a know it all on something. It seems you do it quite a lot in fact.
Opioid dependency is recognised medically. Methadone is a recognised treatment. What you're saying is that you approve of withholding medical treatment for certain conditions, according to your prejudices.
Methadone is legally prescribed, so that's a rather silly thing to agree with.
I don't get what you're saying. You appear to be being contradictory. Yes, we all know that prison is supposed to be a punishment and that part of that punishment is the taking away of social luxuries, like recreational drugs (ignoring the fact that actually drugs are very easy to come by in prison). So far, agreed. You then say that you think prisoners should be treated with methadone for opiod dependency. What is your actual point? You think that withholding methadone is out of order? Or you think methadone is a luxury?
Do you believe that no-one (prisoner or not) should have medication to help them get off of drugs, or through the cold turkey phase?
If you believe that some people should, why would you treat prisoners differently?
Human Rights pply to all Humans (they clue is in the name), so in what way are prisoners not human?
So, are you suggesting that it is easy if you aren't going cold turkey? If not, then why should addicts be punished more than any other criminal?
where are their victim`s human rights? what rights did they have when they were being raped/killed/assaulted
i`m not agreeing or disagreeing with makin them go "cold turkey"
it just seems prisoners have an easy time of late...and if they dont get an easy time...they sue
i seriously think it`ll open floodgates....
Yep, all human. no-one can change that.
Indeed, and the person who committed that crime has their liberty removed. They are still human and these are "rights" - they aren't deniable and they are for humans. Really the name of the legislation is a pretty big clue as to what it covers.
"It seems" is not the same as "it is"
Unless you believe prisoners should suffer abuse, pain or worse as part of their punishment as well life inside prisons is hard enough as it is. They are grim places, overcrowded, dirty, dangerous, depressing and degrading- specially for the tens of thousands of inmates who don't even have a toilet and are forced to piss and shit in a bucket.
Don't you go thinking prisons are suddenly transformed into a "five star holiday camp" (copyright The S*n) because they've put a fucking ping-pong table in the common room or because a few "lucky" prisoners have a TV set in their rooms.
Christ...
Who mentioned "rapists...murderers...child molesters"? Apart from you? What makes you think that treating prisoners humanely means that we can't also care for the victims?
where?
i was implying that these sods, who commit crimes, dont care about the people they are hurting, lives they are destroying, the human rights they are taking away from someone, but they DEMAND theirs
like i have already said, i dont agree or disagree with making them go cold turkey, i dont have a massive opinion on it either way...
one had a cd player and games console
i`m not saying ALL prisons are like that....i just dont think ANY should be like that