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Edited - In fact yeah, OK, so I assumed. And I'm going get some major flak for what I'm about to say... but I speak to people all day every day who live on IS and a lot of them are people who have left their countries to come and live in the UK. And it pisses me off that they get the same benefits as my Dad who, at 59 years old, has worked since he was 15 and paid all of his taxes in this country.
So I'll assume all I like about what The Sovereign said, to me what he wrote appeared to be more about working to earn money and keep his benefits, not about finding a job that he is able to do with the difficutlies he has by being on IS anyway.
Anyway, I could say tonnes more about benefits that isn't related to this thread cause it winds me up no end. But I'll leave it here.
but if he was to do that, wouldn't he get more than £20 a week?
I also get disability living allowence at 58 pound a week.
But i'd say that anyone claiming any mental illness related benefit is wimpy people who gain nothing in life.
to answer the question no i'm not cheating the system, i'm within the rules, and looking to increase where possible any money i have available.
And there is nothing wrong with that mate. :thumb:
you lot can be judgemental cunts at times
Do you think people with alcohol or drug problems are capable of working? As for the casual racism...pffft. :rolleyes:
What is your line of work?
It may seem racist & I couldn't care. If you come over to this country make sure you can provide for yourselves. I wish this country was more like Australia.
Big deal.
You work your a debt collection agency so your employers- none of whom give a fuck about credit laws- would say that.
My employers don't say anything like that. I deal with correspondence everyday from people who owe money who have to prove how much they earn - THAT is how I know.
Still a debt collection agency, and they are all liars and thieves.
*shrug*
Fair enough, that's your opinion... and the same one I would probably have if I didn't work for one myself. :thumb:
He says working as a conveyancer for a big law firm...
I've worked for both a debt management/counselling company, and a debt recovery company. I have a worse opinion of debt management companies.
BUT - I think the problem with debt collection agencies is the staff. Some collectors bully people into paying and clearly it's those people giving debt collections agencies a bad name.
Personally, I am a kind and understanding collector unless someone swears at me.
I'm going to leave it at that.
Oh come on. You know what really gets me is posts like this, that always appear to claim the moral high ground, as if thee has never said a word out of place before.
This isn't fluffy bunny nicey nicey marshmallow world where everyone is friends with Joey the jolly jester, it's the real world, where people say what they think.
Some of it may be harsh, annoying, out of place, clever, witty or serious, but it's all what people think, and I'm surprised when folk expect stuff here to be censored.
Having heard the original posters reason for being on it i apologise for being a tad harsh, but i'd say it again not knowing the circumstances im afraid.
theres too many people out there who just dont want to work, anyone who's willing to work could have a job, it might not be the most fulfilling work but there are jobs out there.
as for the comments on single mothers meh...still should work some of the time, my sister and my bros gf both worked through the majority of their pregnancies and went back to work part time after a break after, putting the child in a nursery dont see why more people cant do this....
if you cant afford to raise a child, you shouldnt have got in that situation in the first place if you ask me!
PLEASE NOTE THIS IS JUST MY OPINION
It costs ridiculous amounts of money to put kids in nurseries. I doubt I could afford it on a good full-time wage.
True.
Not always - there are some people who have genuine mental problems and can't work. (and yes, I live with someone like that)
Someone who only wants to sit around all day and drink and do drugs is someone with a drink or drug problem you numpty.
What, even more racist? Nice.
So you work for a debt collection agency, yet know "all about the benefits system"?
*sceptical face*
I wouldn't want people to be censored. It's always good to see who are the small minded judgemental arseholes.
And please define racism for me. I cant see how me saying how immigrants claiming on the benefit system is racist. They are immigrants, they dont speak a word of English.
Like what? Examples? And how do you know?
So despite having come off looking silly and having to apologies, you'd still want to look silly again in the future?
How do you know? Personally I would say that if someone isn't working, there are more often than not issues there. Whether physical health, mental heath, emotional problems, educational problems, drink or drug problems or plain old alienation. I have formed this opnion after working as an education & employment worker for 3 years.
Its not good for the child to be in a nursery so early for a start. Why should people have to potentially damage their children because of economic circumstance? It's not right.
Errr...hello? Earth calling koe_182! Do you actually know any human beings? We humans are a fairly complex bunch, we have fairly strong drives to reproduce and form pair bonds, drives that do not submit to rational analysis. Also people do not always plan on kids, sometimes these things just happen. Anyway, why should it only be the well off who get to reproduce?
I've never got why people put this at the end of posts. Of course it's your opinion, who elses is it gonna be? You should still be prepared to defend it though, otherwise what's the point in posting it?
I don't think you quite understand what having a drinking problem is. Someone who only wants to sit around drinking all day quite clearly has problems.
It was your assumption that immigrants don't want to work. In fact, immigrants tend to be the most hard working. They tend to be the ones who drive the cabs, own the 24 hour stores, clean the offices etc.
I wasn't assuming immigrants dont work. I could have said the JC is full of OAP but that doesn't mean its targeted for the whole OAP population. Yes as with most people, immigrants have jobs (usually extremely cheap labour) but you must realise that alot of immigrants come to this country solely to ponce of the government.
Don't get so hung up on the term "alcoholic". If someone only wants to sit around drinking all day then they have a drink problem. People who have drink or drug problems have underlying emotional problems that they are using drink or drugs to deal with.
I'm just wondering how you know this? Our benefits system isn't exactly generous y'know. It's far better in other European countries.