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they just want to show that your sexual preferences or turn ons can not always be controlled or chosen. For them it would be like me saying to you "right I know you fancy women but that is wrong and evil and if you do it you will be sent to prison". As much as you could take that on board it would still be hard to resist temptation if thats what turns you on
Edit : There you go, hetros have a mention now
Some people class being gay as morally wrong and disgusting and you've just changed the debate from paedophile to child sex attacker.
I think it is even more important to try to understand these people rather than condemn them as evil or perverse. You arent going to stamp it out by cutting off their hands, bollocks, mouth or any other body part you can think of. Nor is locking up every single paedo going to work. It's hardly enforcable.
But "paedophile" does not mean "child sex attacker" any more than "hetero guy" means "rapist".
those who do act on their urges ...we do what with exactly?
No one has ever excused their actions, we're just saying you can't help being who you are. Those that do act, prison for a long time. Castration? Well doesn't exactly work as an attacker will find other ways to abuse the child.
12 Gauge.
Another question is..is it a medical condition or a sexuality like any other? Well not like any other but you get what I mean.
seriously ...some of you are verging on excusing these people.
we aint realy talking about a few innocent thoughts here or the debate is pointless.
there are some very nasty coniving bastards out there who prey on children ...do everything they can for opportunities to arise.
they need dealing with.
of course we can go down the road that persistent burglars just need a nice holiday and some rest and understanding and all will be well.
Thats why I say use a 12 gauge... it sure stops them reoffending!
I dunno... let's import Sheriff John Bunnell and let him sort the situation out... I bet he has a few good ideas!
the sucsess rate is apparently minimal.
so ...a bunk and a bowl of porridge for a long time seems all we're left with realy.
I generally don't like indulging in political debate... however I totally agree with Skive on this. Fantasy and reality are totally different. If someone makes that fantasy real which harms an underaged child (and in the case afore-mentioned about the 3 year old) then they should be strung up and shot.
Also previously mentioned about the evilness of paedophilia and the reference to homosexuality is just not a comparison whatsoever. Sadly paedophiles have been thrown into the same "pool" as gay men for far too long. I disagree
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Quite. I fail to see how being gay in any way relates to paedophilia.
And the UK justice system defines a long time as parole after 5 years. A joke.
Castration is only ensuring inabilty to procreate. Total supervision and monitoring of action is what I think is required.
I came to this country thinking justice was fair and reasonable. I was misled in that thought apparently. Any form of behaviour where it influences a minor in my opinion is wrong and unjust and should be dealt with with the full and absolute penalty available. If its unlawful sexual connection, rape, child pornography... its irrelevant. I think perpertrators should feel the effect of their actions.... fully and wholly. None of this "if you're good we'll let you go".
My £0.02
True words.
The UK justice system is probably currently misnamed. It's hardly just. They need to clean it off and start from scratch again tbh.
Politicians somehow think they understand the real world. I come from New Zealand where we have a so called democracy... it's been known that despite the shortcomings in population, a certain MP has held the country to ransom. This certain MP has also just become the ambassador of NZ (foreign affairs at least) and is renowned for his anti-immigration stance and diatribe.
Back to the subject, I totally believe that any justice system of any country should be completely and totally impartial. Sadly Judges often have political influence here and abroad, and more oft than not have the goal of royal recognition via knightings or peerages or whatever. It seems quite corrupt.
Jamie
:yippe: word!
Apparently the government and the prison heads themselves do...no wonder people are eligble for parole so early.