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I would challenge you to find a post where anyone, even Diesel, has made a joke and laughed at the deaths of innocents.
You pointed out US soldiers had been killed, thats fine. You then proceeded to make jokes about the accuracy of the bombs and about them being 'smart'. We all know how you feel about the bombing of Afghanistan. Rubbing peoples noses in the deaths of US soldiers is just out of order.
You think youre an expert on nuclear war because youve read a couple of cold war strategy books and you know the results of the WW2 bombs...You are no more an expert on nuclear war than I am. You can provide these hard facts that show that everyone on earth will be wiped out. There are authors who also provide hard facts to the contrary..You say we close our eyes but you are doing exactly the same. Your hypocracy is astounding.
Forgive me if i may seem insensitive at times it is just my way of dealing with things.
Nor and I a Leftie, nor am I ignorant!
At the moment I am reading 'Nuclear illusion and reality' by Solly Zuckerman.
He was Chief Scientific advisor to the ministry of defence for six years and to Prime ministers for a further seven. There are more than 40,000 Nuclear warheads in the world today.
Could I also point out to you lovely people that at no time have I stooped to saying you are completely wrong or ignorant....it's a shame that you have lowered yourself to doing so. <IMG alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="wink.gif" border="0">
Just incase there is any confusion about these words - they were taken from the BBC News website at the time of the incident and are NOT my words!
[ 07-12-2001: Message edited by: byny ]
Those were your words and thats what I, and obviously others, found offensive.
You may not have claimed to be an expert but you are acting as though you are one. You are the one who is saying that everyone will be wiped out in the nuclear war thread. Youre the one saying im plum wrong when I say its my opinion that not everyone will die.
I'm not acting like I think I'm an expert you are projecting your feelings about it onto me.
I am just gathering facts and putting them into the debate.
That sounds pretty authoratative to me.
That was not me saying everyone would be wiped out, that was me stating a fact which IS true. I am not an authority on the subject but from the evidence I have read it is True. It was true in Horoshima - it would be 100 time more true if it happened today.
You need to calm down a little there byny.
Secondly, that quote was an example of what I said about you acting like an expert and laying down absolutes. You dismissed what we were saying and forced your own facts upon the thread. They werent even relevant as we has all assumed people had survived the blast.
Sorry, I was wrong about you saying everyone would die. You said everyone except 3 million would die.
Anyway I dont wish to argue with you about this anymore. It serves no purpose.
Feel free to post whatever you want but if you make snide comments about the deaths of US soldiers then dont be surprised when people get offended.
I'm calm - and I can post whatever I like whenever I like
Yippppeeeediiippppyyy doooo daaahhh!
Hurrah hurrah hurrah.
Thought I'd already explained but whatever you want to think it's fine.
One itsy bitsy thing - Is it possible for a registered member with access to the site to Impose themselves upon the conversation! ?
I suppose if your way of dealing with opinions you don't like is to accuse people of having no right to their opinions ho hum and dolally for you.
Yes...I have replied to this, although I'm sure you expected nothing less. Should I skulk off with tears in my eyes and stand in the corner like a bad little boy cos the forum doesn't like my facts? <IMG alt="image" SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0">
Nobody ever said you shouldnt post things. Nobody ever said you cant post facts. Nobody have ever even said you cant post your vile rants against the US.
You are the one who went off on a little childlike strop about people showing their offence at your comments..You can post what you want and so can we. If we dont like what you post then we can fucking well say so. If you post something offensive then expect to get negative replies. Its common fucking sense.
Please oh great one, point out where anyone has said such a thing.
You post an offensive comment on this thread in order to illustrate your agenda about the US bombers being ineffective. People found that offensive and replied to that effect. Then you have the gall to come on and criticise those people and act hard done by.
LOL..grow up byny.
there's really no need to resort to swear words is there?
I don't think I do have an anti US agenda thanks! very odd of you to decide on that.
The tone of your previous e-mail suggested to me that you would rather I hadn't posted any comments onto this particular topic as I was imposing my (Wrong) views. Apologies, dear man, for getting it wrong - if I did.
I don't need to get over myself no more than I would suggest you do.
However if you can't make your point without swearing at me then I'd rather not hear it ta!
You were more or less telling me to bog off this topic, well I don't have to do I !
Shall I start a new one so that you can completely destroy me privately and then no-one else need be subjected to it?
'Get over youorself' MMMMMMMMM sorry I seem to have riled you so much! <IMG alt="image" SRC="mad.gif" border="0">
Ill resort to whatever swearwords I want. You complain about us telling you what to say and then do the same...Hmm
Yes, I would rather you hadnt made snide comments about the horrible deaths of US and northern alliance soldiers. What i did not do is say you could do that. This is a public forum on which you can post whatever you want. The other posters also have a right to say what we think of your views.
If you want to start a thread where you can rant on about whatever you want without anyone replying or arguing with you then feel free.
Just dont get in a huff if we get offended at some of your posts. We never said you cant post but you can fuck right off if you think we arent allowed to reply to your offensive stuff.
Show me where i said anything like that.
whatever you say captain!
enough already!
You said three - I quoted 'Britain is likely to fare badly with perhaps no more than a few million people surviving the first month'
from one of the books I am reading .
Your idea of a few may be just three but I never said it
TA
You said three - I quoted 'Britain is likely to fare badly with perhaps no more than a few million people surviving the first month'
from one of the books I am reading .
Your idea of a few may be just three but I never said it
TA
[ 07-12-2001: Message edited by: Balddog ]
It is kinda 'Much ado about nothing' isn't it!!!
Nice to hear from someone with a sense of humour