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Is it me, or are all modern feminists just plain sexist. I fully agree with equal rights, as long as thats what they are. equal.
ut the likes of Germaine Greer are getting out of hand. They don't want equal rights, they want men to be the underdogs. Its no longer, "women should be equal" Its "women should be equal. And men should be less equal!"
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ut the likes of Germaine Greer are getting out of hand. They don't want equal rights, they want men to be the underdogs. Its no longer, "women should be equal" Its "women should be equal. And men should be less equal!"
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1. When interviewing candidates you must not take into consideration the differences between men and women. The fact that women are more likely to want maternity time is irrelevant, and to use that as a negative point is sexist.
However, a recent court case has found that working mothers should be given consideration when looking at working hours, and that they should be given preferential treatment.
2. If a women sunbathes in her garden naked and sees her next door neighbour watching, she can have him arrested for stalking/causing a nuisance. He has no case against her.
However, if he is in his garden sunbathing naked and she sees him she can have him arrested for indecent exposure. He has no case against her...
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I thank you.
Welcome to the world of politically correct.
MOK,
I was disgusted by that court ruling about the womans working hours...Can you IMAGINE the fury that would have arisen had a man said that women are more likely to be at home with the kids? My god it would bring down the sky....Of course they are perfectly happy to say it when it benefits them.
drugs may be the road to nowhere, but at least there the scenic route
HOLY CRAP....You cant say that...Its discrimination against women on the sole basis of their physicality..You wouldnt have made that crack about a man..You bloody sexist pig <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif">
I have a feeling we might get our arses kicked if any of the ladies read this <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif">
on the politics thread ? that would be novel, only joking ladies (creep, creep, creep) <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif">
drugs may be the road to nowhere, but at least there the scenic route
[This message has been edited by ebenEzer bad (edited 23-11-2001).]
Feminists piss me off they say they want to be treated equally when in fact they want everything their way.
Dont get me wrong I am of the opinion that a woman can do any job a man can do. But its when you get down to the finer details they then want special treatment because they are a woman like being able to work when they want cause they've got children.
I dont agree with one of your points though and that was:-
Thats a bit harsh. Please dont deprive me of my pint of cider and black :EEK:
Thats exactly why we must ban you from drinking pints. You insist on ruining the wonderful flavour of cider by putting blackcurrant in it, you people sicken me.
where I live the only cider they sell in pubs is Strongbow which to me isn't proper Cider. Hence why I have to add blackcurrant!
If we had the luxury of proper cider i.e Blackthorns or Scrumpy then I would not add the blackcurrant. Ok <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif">
*hides*
MoK that wouldn't be from Dave Allen would it?
and we musn't forget divorces!!!! when was the last time you heard of a man coming out on top from one of those? usually, she gets the house, the car, the kids, the money and a large chunk of his wage. he gets all the bills!!! maybe thats why guyz shy away from commitment??????
women now use sexual discrimination laws whenever things dont go their way, basically. didnt get that job? must be sexual discrimination - sue 'em!!
the amount of control women have over children in relationships is shocking. fathers basically dont have any rights at all, and that is not a major exageration . .
Because I want more stars.
Take the abortion arguments. Men dont have any say in whether the woman gets rid of the baby or not. Its her body so the man shouldnt have anything to do with it(so they say).
But when it comes down to looking after the child then its ALL down to the man. If a woman decides to keep a child she cant afford to keep against the mans wishes then he will be held responsible in a financial way for the rest of his life.
The hypocracy of womens rights is amazing.
New book on misandry
Graeme Hamilton
National Post
14 november 2001
MONTREAL - Men feeling down on themselves need look no further than their
local greeting-card shop or video-rental store for an explanation, the
Montreal authors of a controversial new book argue.
In Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture,
McGill University professor Katherine Young and co-author Paul Nathanson
warn that male-bashing is so pervasive in movies, television, comic strips
and even greeting cards, it could have "disastrous consequences" for
society.
Dr. Nathanson, who has been working with Dr. Young on the project for 15
years, said misandry -- the hatred of men -- is unexplored academic terrain.
"I don't even know how to pronounce it," he said during an interview
yesterday. "I've never heard the word used." He said the U.S. Library of
Congress has three books under the heading of misandry but thousands under
misogyny -- the term for hatred of women.
The authors hope their book, published by McGill-Queen's University Press,
will make the word a part of everyday vocabulary.
"Our hypothesis is that, like misogyny once upon a time, misandry has become
so deeply embedded in our culture that few people -- including men -- even
recognize it," they write.
Men who are offended are reluctant to take a stand because of "the taboo on
male vulnerability," they write.
The examples of misandry cited cover a broad range. They refer to a greeting
card that said, "Men are scum" on the outside and inside, "Excuse me. For a
second there, I was feeling generous." They take issue with Blondie, Hagar
the Horrible and Beetle Bailey, saying "pathetic men are de rigueur in comic
strips."
The brunt of their attack, however, is reserved for television and movies,
everything from Home Improvement and Beavis and Butt-Head to Sleeping with
the Enemy and Silence of the Lambs. Men are laughed at, denigrated or
demonized, receiving treatment that would never be acceptable if directed at
women, they say.
Dr. Young, a professor of religious studies at McGill, said her research has
attracted some hostility from "ideological feminists" who believe women are
superior to men.
"As we wrote it, we realized it's going against the grain, and therefore
it's going to be controversial," she said.
She added that being a tenured professor made it easier for her to take on
the controversial topic without fear of harm to her career.
Some may be tempted to dismiss the book as another example of academics
overly obsessed with popular culture. Its index is peppered with such
entries as Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Gloria Gaynor, Murphy Brown, Sex and
the City and The Vagina Monologues. One appendix, titled the Misandric Week
on Television, analyzes a week of TV Guide listings for examples of
dastardly men.
The book is the first of three volumes about misandry the pair will publish
with McGill-Queen's. Dr. Young said the issue needs to be explored because
it is exacting a social toll.
Fed a popular-culture diet of men who are either hapless or downright evil,
boys and young men are feeling more alienated, she said. "What group wants
to live with constant negative stereotyping?"
Even more serious is the gulf such portrayals create between the sexes.
"What happens to society when the prevailing world view is dualistic, with
one group seen as good and the other as evil?" she asked. In their book, the
authors warn such polarization could provoke a backlash.
"If men are told over and over again that they are not only brutal subhumans
in general but also hostile to women in particular, they are likely to say,
'So be it ...' What goes around, according to the old saying, comes around,"
they write.
Not that I'm aware of. Guess it's becoming more well known as the 'Male Rights' movement takes off.
I'm certainly aware of the erosion of male rights as the years pass. I am in favour of equality, but that's as far as it goes. Either women want equality, or they want to be treated as special.
I was brought up to believe that men should hold a door open for a lady, that I should give up my seat on a bus etc - to me that is manners.
However, I was also brought up to believe that if you sign up for the forces then you don't get pregnant and sue when you are sacked - you made yourself unfit for service ffs! It's no better than going AWOL.
Like I said, I believe in equality and if that means that I will have to fight to have some equality for men then I will do so.
How many Dads get custody of the children in a divorce?
How many men get to decide if a baby is aborted?
Why is domestic violence against men taboo?
Why so much focus on breast and cervical cancer, when prostate cancer will affect a larger percentage of the population?
Why should women tennis players get paid the same as men at Wimbledon when the maximum number of sets they will play during the course of the tournament is the minimum that a man will play...?
These are just examples of how society can be unjust towards men too. I have no doubt that women get treated unfairly in many situations, but that should detract from the fact that it happens to both sexes.
(does this mean that in the balance of things life treates us as equals, because BOTH sexes are treated unfairly at some point? <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/confused.gif"> )
Equality - Yes. But at what point did we get to the two legs bad, four legs good mentality?
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Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage.
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[This message has been edited by Man Of Kent (edited 24-11-2001).]
However IMO some things women do better & some things men do better.
Why is there such a problem with that.
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Peace through superior firepower
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Yeah, women are better than men at somethings and vice versa. It isn't our fault that women are better at everything that doesn't involve sitting on their arses watching TV! Everyone knows they are better at ironing, thats why they do it!
How about Julian Claery <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif">....
(Lol, I don't even know how to spell it!!)
What is that?
All evil needs to thrive is for good men to sit back and do nothing
drugs may be the road to nowhere, but at least there the scenic route
well i certainly dont. that's what mums are for! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif">
equality for all sexes is different to feminism. it started off with women having a lower status than men, they worked to make the status of women higher, and they're not stopping now they've pretty much achieved equality. feminism can definitely go too far.
abortion's a dodgy topic, no matter which way you come at it. if i got pregnant, i wouldnt want anyone dictating to me whether i had the baby or not. the decision on whether to have an abortion or not is difficult enough as it is, it would be unimaginable if you had to consider the father's right as well. but im aware that this viewpoint isnt very "equal", and fathers should have rights as well. i dont have any answers for abortion though. in custody battles, i dont think it should ever be assumed that the mother is a better care giver than the father. that would be a good place to start making equality actually equal, and not men being less equal than women <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif">
Damn right I do my own ironing!
i swear, the space shuttle goes into orbit with less buttons, dials, knobs, screens, flashing lights etc than ur average washing machine has!! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/eek.gif"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/confused.gif"> and it STILL manages to shrink things! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/mad.gif"> give me NASA any day <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif">
Because I want more stars.
Yes, but as a result washing machines aren't in the habit of exploding in a fireball of hydrogen and bodies.