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The reasopn why prisons are full
BillieTheBot
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It's because of this.
No wonder we have to let people out early on home detention curfew (by early I mean before half the sentence)- it's so we can jail people who don't drag their kids kicking and screaming to school!
Still, I hope Rotherham Council's taxpayers are delighted that their hard-earned wedge is being used to persecute people.
No wonder we have to let people out early on home detention curfew (by early I mean before half the sentence)- it's so we can jail people who don't drag their kids kicking and screaming to school!
Still, I hope Rotherham Council's taxpayers are delighted that their hard-earned wedge is being used to persecute people.
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You just get equity rights.
So send little Timmy to get brainwashed and broken or go to jail.
Theres good money in prisoners, they need feeding, clothing, lawyers, judges, guards, insurance and loads of other stuff you can use to borrow money off the back of.
It's in the states interest to create fear and solve no problems.
Fair enough she may have done something wrong in the first place to let it get so bad but you can't send someone for prison for that surely.
having said that what would be an appropriate punishment? Community service?
If the kid decides that school offers her nothing- and unless you're going to get a bagful of Cs at GCSE it doesn't- then what's the point of forcing her there?
Get her trained up to do something useful, something that she'd enjoy.
But The Government says you must go to school, so you will, or mummy gets it.
There's far more to education than algebra though.
The biggest thing wrong with this country's education system is that this fact is not understood or appreciated.
There should be more of an emphasis on educating parents earlier on about the potential benfits of bringing their kids up a certain way, not punishing parents for how their kids have turned out.
This is, in a minor way happening, more and more 14 year olds are going out on extended work experience or day release to colleges to do vocational stuff. Its hardly ideal but there are other choices than just purely GCSE's now.
Exactly.
Surely fines are better (or are they worse?) than being sent to prison?
Which would be a bad thing, obviously. Nanny knows best.
So your saying that the child should decide whether he/she goes to school? I think this comment is appaling, at this young age I don't believe the child will have matured enough to understand whether its a benefit to his/her life or not. I can totally understand the punishment.
As for sending her to prison I can understand your point about them being full but it isn't really justifiable in this case. The woman was warned twice with fines so how far does it go. Its unfair for the child to get no education because her mother wont send her to school.
The impression I got from reading the link was that the child DIDN'T want to go to school. So why are you saying that it's unfair for the child to not get education? :rolleyes: Also, it's possible to get an education (kind of anyway) without going to school. And I know this because I was told yesterday by someone in the Marines.
This I agree with.
How, physically, is the mother supposed to take the girl to school if she doesnt want to go that badly? Cattle prod?
Don't forget it's illegal for Mum to whack her kids.
So she is being asked to do something she probably can't actually do and then being punished for her inability.
What are her options?
1) Hit her kid to make her conform to someone elses wishes. She might not agree with those wishes, she might want her kid to go to school BUT either way, f she does raise her hand said kid can have her chucked in the clink. And ofc there is no guarantee it will do anything but harden the kids resolve.
2) Disown the kid. Chuck her onto the streets and let "child services" deal with her. Geat option this one. :rolleyes:
3) Go to prison.
Not exactly.
Though perhaps someone should have tried to find out why the child didn't go to school. It appears they didn't- notice the comments in mitigation. Surely if the family were nfa the education services should have realised something was up?
So you can understand punishing one person for the actions of another?
And as other people have asked, how do you force an adult to go to school if they really really don't want to go?
This girl isn't four, you can't just pick her up.
And out of interest, how will the life of a teenage girl be improved by only getting to see her mother once a fortnight? I'm genuinely interested in understanding how someone can say separating a child from her mother is in her "best interest".
Interestingly this is the very reason women cant be sent to jail for breaking child access rules.
There was a case in Darlington of a woman jailed because her daughter refused to go to school. Oddly enough, the daughter was bullied at school.
But schools don't have bullying problems, so off to jail goes mummy.
Because they dont bloody work!
But there is no correlation between prison numbers and crime rates, just look at the US vs. Canada for example or any other bloody country on Earth.
Just putting someone in a metal box for a few years does not solve the problem.
That's very simple, and not in the good way.
Or just STOP CLOSING THEM. ffs, its as bad as the rate they are closing hospitals.
My last two years at school, I had 13% attendance and putting my parents in jail would not have made it any higher!
i deserved to be there ...i got caught.
for any of you who think it's a breeze ....if you ever get three months ...three weeks ...or three days ...for being to hard up to pay the poll tax or whatever it's called now ...remember this ...
if your in for whats known as a shit and a shave ...six months or less ...don't dare gripe about your lot in life.
and ...short termers always get put in with long termers ...the long termer can't get a short termer to hatcyh an escape plan.
you realy have no idea ....