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Drugs should be regulated and controlled and not criminalised
BillieTheBot
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Virtually all drugs would be safer for the user and society if they were sold in a controlled and regulated fashion.
Heroin should be on script
Recreational drugs should be legal to buy (under tight control)
Residential help should be available without wait for those who need it.
Heroin should be on script
Recreational drugs should be legal to buy (under tight control)
Residential help should be available without wait for those who need it.
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I’d like to know how people who have been arrested for “personal use” amounts of drugs have been affected. Some former US addicts have told me it’s the best thing that happened because it forced them into treatment. Others went deeper into their addictions as their lives fell further apart.
But what about casual users? What has it done to you or your friends who have been arrested?
Opioids would be nice to have legal, but their history i think prohibits it. When people think heroin they think death.
Casual users in the US - a lot of people in my town shun drugs. I lose friends, almost lost my girl, my finger, and have almost gotten into trouble with the police a few times.
I think asking for the legalization of psychoactive substances now is too much. As time progresses, I think we'll see alot more substances become legal.
the poorer people would buy laudanum ...opium dissolved in alcohol ...(opium tincture).
cocaine and opiates were so popular and fashionable that sherlock holmes was a cocaine and morphine addict ...without shame and without all the bullshit you get today.
remember ...drug use is nothing new.
massive use in victorian times through to the 1920's and thirties and then came war.
use of cannabis cocaine and opiates that is.
Nonsense. People should take them with whoever and wherever you like. The idea that padded rooms with professional trip sitters are required is, for want of a better word, pure Hollywood.
Why?
playing out in the park with friends at three in the morning is more like it.
over many years i cannot recall a single person who gets flash backs.
why? People can't handle the responsibility. Look at alcohol. Binge drinking, drunk driving, it all leads to death. I don't think people could handle the privilige of using such mindbending substances.
The USA already has a ton of problems with alcohol related deaths. The second someone crashed under the influence of a drug people would look at it like oh god this is going to be another alcohol.
Now i'm doing this from a USA standpoint because i don't know much about alcohol use over there, i hear its less intense though.
You got be joking. We may not be as bad as the Ruskies or some of the Scandanavian countries but we're certainly not far off.
usualy by way of much violence and destruction.
as for lsd etc becoming a major problem ...it didn't in the sixties when it was THE drug to take at the weekend by millions across the world.
the mental institusions didn't fill up.
there wasn't a rise in traffic mutilation.
there did seem to be less violence though ...
Alcohol is a totally different drug.
People aren't going to be able to have good trips in strange rooms with strange people. It's something most people can only do privately.
Magic mushrooms were sold all over the UK for quite a while and there was no reports of major problems. People are far more likely to avoid doing anything dangerous on psychedelics drugs anyway, that's for sure.
Not that it matters whatsoever if it's illegal or not...still seems legal stuff's that easy to get these days.
it's a fucked up place
Alcohol is different, and anyway, alcohol use isnt regulated properly.
Of course there would be problems with legal supply, but in case you havent noticed making drugs illegal hasnt exactly been a great solution either.
Legal supply doesnt have to be good, it doesnt even have to be near good, it just has to be better than what we have now, and it certainly cant be worse.
Ok, let me rephrase that. Some people, not all people, can potentially suffer from flashbacks after taking LSD
Unless of course, these people are taking bollocks:
http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/drugacid.html
'Some people may experience flashbacks days or even weeks after taking acid, where it can feel like they're reliving certain elements of their trip. '
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=152316&page=2&pp=25
'I know a husband and father of two who did LSD in the sixties, and had a flashback a few years ago while driving. He is now almost a quadriplegic. (A friend of my family's from when we lived in Kenya.)'
I don't mean to show any hostility to the drug, but.. are you sure it's little more than a myth?
Legal supply doesnt have to be good, it doesnt even have to be near good, it just has to be better than what we have now, won't be worse
i'm not disputing that.
what concerns me is ...millions of people hammered LSD for many years.
those millions i represent right now in this post.
i know of many different things happening to people ...spiritualy financialy emotionaly mentaly physicaly and all the rest. all these people have been so varied ...most of them nowadays being never even of taking nicotine.
the straight guy has a flash back to a childhood event .... :chin:
There is some information on Erowid if you fancy a look - here and in 'flashbacks'here.
They are much like any strong memory, such as a car crash or rape (though without the negative thought paterns) the mind just sometimes pulls the memory forward to have another look at it. It doesnt mean there is any permenant damage of the brain, or any lingering LSD in your system.
theres probably loads of people that think they've got flashbacks and havent .. people seem to think that if you take LSD, you're most likely gonna get flashbacks
Whats interesting is when you get people to talk about their first MDMA experience they normally get a bit of the high back and experience the feeling. But no one calls that a flashback.
but thats pleasant .. people think lsd flashback and they think scary hallucinations..
Its the same basic mechanism though, your mind remembering a strong memory.
But its not been an argument so loudly and elequently put before, and there are interesting developments. Certainly the US is still as strong on the idea as ever, but look at the Swiss and the Canadians, they are moving towards decriminalisation and possible legal supply. It isnt the fully depressive picture of the 1980's.
And of course just look at the UK, the police and government have said openly that they dont care about personal users of cannabis, that is, in a small way a radical move.
Suppose he didn't seem to put it in a very obvious way! That changes my mind a bit about LSD then, though what is he advocating if his post is ironic?