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There is no God.
In the meantime it'd be nice if we can get World leaders who can do their job according to man's rules and not influenced by unproven beliefs and superstitions.
ugh.
A War Criminal is soone you fufills the defination of a war criminal. They have to break the rules of war and be defined as such what was dranw up, debated and ratified.
Broke international law? oh for cyring out loud, there is no linternational law, its all a con. There is no international law. The Geneva convention hasn't ben broken and people die in war, abuse and torture claims are tenious at best, and when it has occured, they individuals have been dealt with, with no proof of state sponsered torure and buses etc.
you can crow on and on about all the stuff you usually do, like one memo that authorised the use of stress postions and sensory deprevation (not torture by the way) . But it doesnt change actual facts.
Geneva doesn't apply to Qunatanomo by the way either before you go on about that.
LOL!
LOL!
So long as it's human beings inside, the Geneva Convention applies.
Last time I checked it wasn't a guinea pig they had running down there.
Everything is specific. Specific conditins, speicifc cases and speicfic lawas and non-laws.
Not one covers all I am afraid.
It may be grey area, it may be unethical and it may be a loophole. But its legal.
gotta love it
Next you will tell me that sexually humilliating prisoners or driving them mad through sensory depravation isn't torture, or that terrorising defenceless inmates with dogs is a common and legal practice in the West.
Oh wait... you've already claimed that.
Get it in your head. Your idol the US government broke the law went it went to war, and it breaks the law every day the illegal concentration-nazi camp Guantanamo Bay remains open.
And no matter how many times you deny it, it is not going to make it any less illegal.
You can choose to continue to bury your head in the sand, of course...
Pray ferm ine too please mate? If God is as all the Militant beleivers say... and not therefore, as the Holy Book itself says, then I need it!
I chose to withold any judgement until I am better informed about it. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. Hell, I don't live a terrible evil life, I nearly always have good and honest intentions (And oh, how I wish I could put them aside more often!), so meh.
But I guess if the Church is right, my left wing views make me evil!
And Tony prayed, essentially, for God to help him... do something against that which is preached in the Bible itself? Arg.
Yeaaaah...keep the economy happy, and you can get away with owt else.
Urgh.
War is dirty full-stop. It demeans our humanity. There is no moral high ground for any participants. War is evil.
At least they don't have the fucking cheek to pretend they are champions of freedom and are against torture and human rights abuses.
Tsk.
Such delusion so sad.
Because I did, the whole interview and I cant see how you can draw those conclusions.
Yes, in a round about way he said, if you believe in God, then God will be the final judge. That's hardly a shocking thing to say is it?
He never said that he prayed to get the answer for the war, he never said god talked to him, he never said that he only went on his judgement. In fact he consistantly played down any references to God at all.
This isnt anything like the comments from Bush.
“God will be my judge” he says. :rolleyes: If there was any justice the International Court of Justice in The Hague would be his judge – it’s unlikely, but at least for somebody as narcissistic as him, having to leave office knowing that he will be remembered best as a gullible fool up the arse of Dumbya Bush might be punishment enough.
Dont believe what you read in the papers, the interview was quite normal, and the whole god thing has been totally distorted away from what he actually said.
Although, strangely enough, just before the invasion of Iraq, he was saying that *history* would be his judge.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,905294,00.html
I guess he figures God will be kinder...;)
Iraqi and foreign insurgents are massacaring the opposition in Iraq (1300 dead last week) and you have to ask who is winning? :banghead:
In war people die. Simple as and as for the God claims, I think its taken out of context, certainly for Blair and most probably for Bush even.
And anyway, what make's you think God didn't want that? I mean if you go on "evidence" God was oking all kind sof wars in the OT, he even told people to go directly and massacre another bunch of people. H elaso sent his angels on regualr genocidal rampages. He was quite a bloodthirsty guy back int he day , and did you ever ask how he come to the postion of God in the first place??
God is not supposed to like liars either. You don't get bigger liars than Bush and Blair, who fabricated evidence about Saddam's WMDs and links to terrorism in order to justify their illegal Crusades.
Actually, how do you know God didn't talk to Dubya? He doesn't exist in your beliefs so its not liek he talks to you is it? lol
It's going off on a tangent a little, but the thing that scares me about Bush (well, one of many things) is the extent to which his hyper-conservative brand of religion influences the way he runs the US. He seems to genuinely believe that because "God is on his side", his actions can't be/shouldn't be disputed. Blech.
I agree that in terms of Blair, his statement has been taken way out of context. There is plenty of ammunition with which to annihilate our PM...so no reason to twist this into a huge controversy for that purpose.