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Guantanamo film actors detained at aiport coming back from film festival
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http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1714282,00.html
It certainly gives a new meaning to the word irony doesn't it... :rolleyes:
And look at this:
We're closer to a totalitarian police state than never before.
It certainly gives a new meaning to the word irony doesn't it... :rolleyes:
And look at this:
In a statement, Rizwan Ahmed said police swore at him and asked if he had become an actor to further the Islamic cause. He said he was at first denied access to a lawyer and was questioned about his views on the Iraq war by a policewoman. "She asked me whether I intended to do more documentary films, specifically more political ones like The Road to Guantánamo. She asked 'Did you become an actor mainly to do films like this, to publicise the struggles of Muslims?'"
Mr Ahmed alleged that he had a telephone wrestled from his hand as he tried to contact a lawyer and was later abused. He claimed that one police officer had called him a "fucker".
We're closer to a totalitarian police state than never before.
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The alternative (and by the sound of it more probable cause) is actually far worse: that they were targeted because they had chosen to work in a film that told the story of British citizens illegally captured, imprisoned and tortured for 2 years by a foreign power, with our own government unwilling to do anything about it until the very end.
Suspicious, in this case means critersising the government and not being white.
Do you think if Ian McKellen had worked on the film they would have questioned him, would they have even stopped the others if he'd been with them ?
Also am I the only one who finds it suspicious that a copper would refer to the 'struggles of Muslims' which sounds like something a lefty filmaker would say rather than a copper
ETA - that I should speak on the phone and post at the same time, because my grammar is awful.
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At train stations and airports the police are more likely to stop young men of Middle Eastern/Pakistani ethnicity than elderly women. That’s quite controversial I understand and it’s not something anyone is comfortable with. On the other hand when I’ve been to Israel I’ve been glad that I went El-Al who use those kind of procedures.
Do you really believe that? I think that’s pretty far-fetched and I’ve not seen any evidence of such sinister motives.
There’s not really any proof that suggests that they were stopped because of the film they’d worked on. It is far more plausible that the police initially stopped them for security reasons, like most people knowing nothing about their little film and then during questioning the details about the film emerged and the police made a few silly remarks and asked a few stupid questions. Then released in under an hour, the producers realised what an excellent publicity stunt this could be giving some useful free advertising and furthering their agenda of Britain being a nasty anti-Muslim country. Seems as likely as Aladdin’s interpretation – without further details however I don’t think anyone here knows the fully story.
I'm tempted to remove my ref now to El-Al. Hmm, I'll leave it. Makes a change to beat Clan in bringing it up.
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Aren't you supposed to be doing sports or helping old ladies or something instead?
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I was going to say 10 years ago I could have never entertained the idea of such thing happening but in Blair's Britain all is possible, but come to think of it such things could and probably did happen under the likes of Thatcher too. If not to Muslims certainly to people of Irish origin.
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Although as NQA says it seems a little unlikely that police officers patrolling Luton airport will be well informed about independent left wing documentary films – and well informed enough presumably to recognise the actors. Hence I think your theory is only plausible really if they were told by some senior source to stop them – and I don’t really see any sound reason. (Not that the police always need one admittedly but I just think it’s a lot more likely that they were stopped for some other security reason or something and the film thing was coincidental).
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Perfectly plausible if you ask me.
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Could be. I don’t know. That would make more sense than your original theory that the police targeted them purely because of the film they were in.
However, since thousands of people of Middle Eastern or Pakistani appearance (guessing that’s what you meant by looking like a terrorist) come into our airports each day – the vast bulk not being stopped I’d think the police must have had more than their appearance to go on. I don’t know what and I don’t know how airport security works but perhaps a few entirely innocent things together set off a trigger and the police realised they'd made a mistake.
Or perhaps it’s just a few inexperienced police officers on the ground being a bit arsey over nothing? Equally plausible imo which certainly doesn’t translate into Britain being on the brink of a totalitarian police state.