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If you don't like it...go elsewhere...or at another time.
i can understand why they exist.
My student union swimming pool (ULU) has men only sessions also.
mind if i ask why?
:shocking: :eek2: :crazyeyes
Are you serious?
When I go to the gym I usually keep my eyes fairly fixed firmly on the ground lest I accidentally make eye contact with some girlie clad in two handkerchief sized pieces of lycra and get accused of perving on her.
Way to miss the point. :yeees:
Give us a little credit.
I'm not against men having equal time in a swimming pool that they fund equally, but I don't think it should be at the expense of women who are accustomed to having this priviledge (yes, I'm aware that is what these specialist sessions are). Like I said before, I think calls to revoke the sessions all-together is petty and spiteful, if it's an issue for male members then they should be offering sessions that are exclusively male swim time too.
I don't think it's just out of spite, I think it's been caused by men walking all the way to the swimming pool at the only time that's available to them, and being told that they can't some in just because they're a man. Different times (or preferably different lanes) for different swimming abilities is fine, since you don't want people being drowned by someone speeding past them, nor do you want someone not being able to have a proper swim, because they're constantly held up. And clubs are fine, because even though they're using pool time, I expect that everyone is welcome to join the club if they so wish. What special needs do women (or men) have that should allow them exclusive use of the pool?
so on the streets there should be male and female times only so they dont oggle eachother? and what do you do with gay men or women?
learning to deal with people who arent actually infringing upon you but are annoying is part of life
should they allow lesbians to all women nights?
sometimes it's a culture thing. Some cultures do not allow women to be in a state of undress (Showing flesh) in front of men they are not related to.
Personally I think anyone who is mean enough to take away someone's chance of enjoying a swim just to make a point is a very sad person.
even if they claim to be doing it because they think the cultural 'rules' are wrong, I think it's mean and won't change anything.
Agreed 100%.
:banghead:
Stop being so disingenuous. Yes, maybe these women-only sessions should be consigned to privately-owned swimming baths to solve this "issue", but I get the feeling that some people would still take issue with their existence.
And are you being facaetious or seriously suggesting questioning people's sexuality before they go swimming?
your not answering my question - i said 'if womens session are there to stop women feel like they're being watched, would you admit a known lesbian to it?'
despite the fact it makes the assumption men never stop looking at women which isn't quite true and therefore i find it really offensive and sexist
some people said its that they dont want kids etc playing around and splashing in the pool, to which i gave a good answer of having nights with enforced pool rules
A "known lesbian"? What is that supposed to mean? You make it sound as if simply being a lesbian makes you an automatic sexual predator. To answer your question quite simply - yes, I would.
I find the idea that a women-only sports session automatically makes the assumption that "men never stop looking at women" to be rather ridiculous, can women not have reasons other than that for wanting to have a single-sex swimming hour? You drew your own conclusion there, because I didn't say anything like that at any point.
Also, these sessions aren't in place to reassure women that they aren't being watched. But even if they were, I really fail to see why using an hour out of a pool's schedule to provide that reassurance is a bad thing.
You won't change my opinion on this, and I clearly won't change yours, so I'll agree to disagree. :thumb:
there are people who have said they like women only nights to stop people lookin at them?
why do you like them then?
One of the main reasons people have women only sessions is to serve the part of the local community that has religious or cultural rules regarding displaying human flesh to men they are not related to.
Does anyone here think providing that service to these women is wrong?
have you seen my views on providing exemptions on that scale for religious reasons
i probably wouldnt care sometimes, however they do tend to have LOADS of womens nights imo
why isnt it sexist, its discrimination based upon sex for no reason other than someone elses opinion which is sexism imo
Well, fair enough. I'm not in favour of it taking over the entire schedule, I just don't think it's that big a deal that the service is provided when there's clearly a demand for it.
As it says in the article, they would have put on a men's session but there's no demand for it. So something doesn't quite add up.
Like byny said, it's the odd voice of dissent crying "sexism" and the council or whoever act instantly.
"I think some women do feel self-conscious in their swimsuits and just feel more comfortable when they know it's just other women in the pool.
"As far as I know, there was only two hours of women-only swim time at Backwell, which doesn't seem too much to ask from a whole week.
maybe because, to be blunt, the men dont give a toss as long as they get to swim
Here's something I dug up about about this:
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545706
The first scholar seems to suggest that a muslim woman should not swim in the same pool that a man has been swimming in, even if they are in it at different, exclusive times. That might just be me misunderstanding it though...