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How much am I worth?
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If I accept the two jobs I've been offered on a self employed basis, working 32 hours per week, guess how much more money I'll have weekly compared to if I stayed home??? £78.32! That makes my time worth £2.45 p/h
I worked it out using online benefits and tax calculators and couldn't believe the results, I checked and re-checked! Gah, working 32 hours for and extra £2.45 ph really puts me off. It also goes to show how the current benefits system doesn't encourage people to work. For the two jobs, I will actually be charging £7.21 ph and £10.63 but I'll only benefit from two pounds bloody forty five worth! I will of course be checking these figures with inland revenue and benefits but... I think I'm right.
Unfortunately I'm purdy darn skint so... I will be starting this in January and deferring my university semester until next sept *weeps with frustration*
I worked it out using online benefits and tax calculators and couldn't believe the results, I checked and re-checked! Gah, working 32 hours for and extra £2.45 ph really puts me off. It also goes to show how the current benefits system doesn't encourage people to work. For the two jobs, I will actually be charging £7.21 ph and £10.63 but I'll only benefit from two pounds bloody forty five worth! I will of course be checking these figures with inland revenue and benefits but... I think I'm right.
Unfortunately I'm purdy darn skint so... I will be starting this in January and deferring my university semester until next sept *weeps with frustration*
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This seems to be because the more I earn, the less rent I'd be helped with in benefits, which is reasonable in theory. Reasonable until you see the practical application of it showing twice as much work = no return!
Where can I go to check all these figures that I've worked out? I just want to work out exactly, presicely how much I'd be getting under each set of circumstances before I start... I have a New Deal advisor but she couldn't help me with this when I asked her last week, she couldn't work out the tax credits, or what the situation would be if my earnings were all/partly self-employed.
that's life i'm afraid. i'd rather have the satisfaction of working for my money personally.
I'm in a similar position as yourself, the only way I can get a job I'd be happy in is to go self-employed but it's a total nightmare with no guarantee of financial security or success. I could try to get a job in a shop or factory or something but I wouldn't be any better off and I'd be so depressed.
Work is supposed to be productive and with some kind of reward....I'm just totally lost (in general!).
Let's look at it another way. Why should other people work so that you don't have to?
how do you propose we look after our children if we don't work? who's going to pay the benefits that you'd receive?
I obviously have missed your point as I thought that your thread was moaning about how little extra you are going to get paid.
However, you completly missed my point, which is that we can't all live off the state, as some people have to provide the "state".
Also, looking after kids is not a "job", I've been through this discussion on here and elsewhere countless times and really cannot be arsed to go through it all over again.
And without debating it we'll have to agree to disagree as I do believe that looking after kids is and should be regarded as a 'job' if not one of the most important jobs.
you seem to have ignored my questions of...
how do you propose we look after our children if we don't work? who's going to pay the benefits that you'd receive?
funny.
With the greatest respect, your proposed system is utter nonsense.
You seem to think that the money comes from nowhere. Who generates the cash whilst everyone is lording it caring for the offspring?
exactly what i was trying to say but she seems to find a way of turning it around or something to make it look like what i said has nothing to do with her point.
katralla: if women stay at home and look after the children, less taxes will be paid and so how do you propose the benefits for these stay at home mums are paid? full employment is the key to a healthy economy, not for half (or whatever the ratio of men to women is) of the working population to stay at home looking after the kids.
Um, how much money do you think it takes to raise a child? Do you propose a woman saves this much money before having a child? I think your idea is silly as the age most women would be after saving this amount is well beyond the biological prime for childbirth. Not a great idea for hte children eh? Or the mothers!
I am a mother, educated, have been a company director, paid my taxes, contributed and will continue to contribute to the economy thank you very much. I am also a fully fledged feminist in the true meaning of the word but...If you want to believe that's^^^ what I'm saying, then to continue explaining is like flogging a dead horse! :banghead: but I'll try:
I think it would be beneficial to the current and the future society for support financially and otherwise to be geared towards producing and caring for children the role of 'motherhood'. Nowhere have I asserted that women should stay at home or that it would be beneficial to the economy for them to do so. Now, think outside what you think you know about how a society and an economy run healthily, and imagine how beautiful we could make the world- for EVERYONE! I think the best way to do this would be to educate our safe happy and secure children, don't you? I don't think my ideology is particularly radical, Charlotte Perkins Gilbert was harping on a similar vein way back in 1915 in her feminist text Herland before the word 'feminism' even existed.
And for those who are seemingly using their fear of benefits against my arguement, I suggest there is enough money available in the budget from the taxes as the are set, they could just do with a little re-arranging I doubt any of the re-arranging I would suggest would affect 'you' directly so, don't scream "but I already pay enough income tax blah blah blah"
and something else..just because you've paid taxes before doesn't give you the right to think 'well i've paid them before so i don't have to do it again'.