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These aren't long haired stoners conducting surveys of their pals. They're objective scientific studies.
So, I've provided some relevent sources. Where are yours?
There is some evidence which suggests so. I clearly remember reading about it months ago, a book called 'the emperor wears no clothes' i believe it was. Rolly linked me to it a while back.
Either way, it's pretty irrelevent, because there's enough studies showing no correlation between weed and lung cancer and a noticable lack of studies suggesting the opposite to prove muse mistaken in his assertions.
Anyway...the main health risk for most people smoking weed is soapbar...a direct product of prohibition.
Yeah, I know the book. Its hardly an impartial source.
Are you implying that smoking a join would effect my good judgement? Does this not go against what you are arguing?
all those who are against legalisation ...please offer us something that hasn't already failed.
how do we stop the ever growing number of users ...the ever growing number of dealers ...the ever growing violence and gun crime that comes with protecting your thousand pounds a night turnover?
getting intoxicated by the way ...is probably far older than seeing who can kick a ball the farthest.
men seeking alternate realities and altered states ...comes with being human ...it aint fucking new!
those who are proposing legalisation aren't doing so in the belief the world will be one big happy party with drugs.
the legalisers which include an ever growing number of politicians and high ranking coppers and civil servants health workers etc ...see a problem that is growing year on year with the associated crime and violence whilst things are left in the hands of criminals.
the legalisers wish to change that situation.
all those against legalising are not offering anything other than lets leave it alone ...lets wash our hands ofthe problem ...how bad does it have to get before you are willing to come up with some solutions?
Drugs laws, it would seem, are as much based on political climate as any really judgement on the facts behind them.
alcohol often causes violence and total memory loss ...what illegal drugs in popular use do that?
they have always been widespread by the way.
victorian times ...opium and cannabis were hugely popular ...and legal.
edwardian times through the 20's and 30's ...opium cannabis morphine and cocain were hugely popular.
morphine and cocaine were so fashionable that sherlock holmes was depicted as a user of both.
the coke to stimulate his mind for solving complex problems ...the morphine to relax him ...help him unwind and get the days work out of his system.
but still no offers of what to do?
do we keep things the way they are?
let the problem grow and see the fabric of socciety degrade even further cos gangsters and terrorists are turning over ...in cash ...up to ten billion pounds a year in the uk alone?
that kind of cash causes serious violence and death ...corruption etc.
if the demand for drugs is so high in the uk ...what do we do?
i had a photograph many years ago of the real elliot ness and the real alcapone ...standing at a bar in an illegal boozer ...both puffing on a huge cannabis pipe!
Gah! too tired, had to guess 20's or 30's
i dont think only good will come out of it tbh, maybe we will never see =p
No. What an odd thing to say.
I certainly dont want drugs sold over the counter to anyone at any time of the day or night at rock bottom prices, that would lead to an increase in use.
But, restricted and controlled sale of recreational drugs such as cannabis and MDMA.
Heroin is a medicine and should be treated as such, methadone is crap and should (largely) be replaced.
The situation with cocaine and amphetamines is difficult and I dont have a good answer for them.
Legal drug supply wouldnt be great, that's not the point, it would be better than what we have now which is an expensive dangerous mess.
the evidence which shows relaxing the laws actualy diminishes drug use.
the evidence that up to ten billion quid a year in untaxed and mostly untraceablke cash is funding terrorism and organised crime in the uk?
the evidence that shows a clean heroin supply is healthier for ALL of us?
that the government having control makes far more sense than bincapone having control ...and on and fucking on it goes!
but still no one comes up with any ideas ...apart from legalising.
then the legalisers get jumped on for being silly while the antis wring their little hands and suggest nothing!
by suggesting absolutely nothing through the whole of this thread ...i take it those against aRE HAPPY TO HAVE THE STREETS AWASH WITH IMPURE AND UNSAFE SUBSTANCES UNder no control whatsoever!
i would realy like to see some kind of suggestion other than legalisation from those opposed to it.
we have a problem huston ...we have have offered up our ideas how to change things ...all you do you houston is ridicule our ideas and then go silent.
it cannot be an inteligent debate when only one side is offering a way to deal with what is a problem
fine disagreeing ...but ...
http://www.jrf.org.uk/bookshop/eBooks/1859354254.pdf
From the summary
Well they must be content with how things stand at the moment. Strange. :eek2:
The State of Ecstasy and the most recent one about addiction are definately worth checking out.
fao ...those who think it's time to do something about it.
fao ...those against legalising ...
what shall we do?
to stop or limit consumption and demand of these substances?
your help ideas and advice needed urgently ...
You won't get an answer to that, simply because they don't have one.
the point where you ask them what to do.
the legalisers are offering a change ...a different approach.
those who argue against this idea ...offer nothing but keep things the way they are.
they are happy to have the streets full of poisened inferior and dangerous products being manufactured and distributed by gangsters and terrorists who turn over up to ten billion quid a year in the uk alone ...how many other industries turn over that much i keep asking ...or they are bankrupt of ideas but rubbish immediately the one we and many proffesionals put forth.
so ...come on you people who maybe rightly argue against our ideas ...try actualy offering something different.
is that beyond you ...or are you happy to let things carry on the way they are?
this is a nicotine junky dsaying this.
fags are an evil addiction that effects everyone around the smoker.
it also serves no purpose where cannabis and heroin etc etc ...do actualy serve many purposes.
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Mot people drink alcohol, and something like half of our generation smoke or have smoked weed.
If put to a public vote, legalisation of cannabis would probably be supported by a majority.
Drugs will always be around.