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You seriously think that stands as an argument? We're not talking about the government handing "everyone a rope [drugs] and told them that rock climbing [drugs] was a good and harmless thing to do". That's a complete straw man, I guess because you know you're losing so you'd like to misrepresent and reframe the entire argument. I thought better of you Kentish.
Not what I mean by therapeutic but never mind. I'm not sure what you point is anymore.
Is that what we're proposing they do with drugs?
No.
So don't give me cheap comments and think you have made the point because you cannot make the assertion that legalising drugs would be better all round and you haven't shown your argument to be true in reality.
No. That's you assuming that, not based in fact.
Again, your assumptions. I don't think most people are as dumb as you seem to think.
So telling the truth about drugs won't alter people's perception? Eh?
Although, of course, we have no evidence that the numbers using would increase. Its legal to drink in the morning? Do you? If not, why not?
I could say exactly the same thing for you.
Everybodys favourite phrase makes another entrance!!! :yippe:
No it wouldn't.
People take drugs because they want to, or because they are addicted. neither situation is affected by "government tacit approval".
The only way drug use will go up is through the small number of people who don't use them only because they don't know where to get them.
And you have no evidence that they would not increase, logic suggests they would.
Guess what I would describe the second part as
A straw man!!!
:hyper:
No it doesn't. See my post above.
You don't actually know what a straw man argument is do you?
I think it may increase, but there is no real way of knowing. But even if it does, so what?
Most people have a drink first thing in the morning. Why not? Most people don't buy off the dealers down Coldharbour Lane. Why not?
More potential for harm. That's not actual harm. I would argue though, that it would be offset by the reduction in harm by the fact that drugs would be legal, i.e. of known strength and purity, cheaper, not in the hands of gangsters, users not being at risk of arrest etc etc. And thats assuming that there would be an increase - which is debateable.
So is cocaine. My point is that most people could spend all say drinking if they wanted. They don't. Why? Because of the law? Or something else?
If she doesn't have drugs, they can't do her for anything, can they?
Drug addicts aren't that easy to spot; no more so than people with alcohol abuse problems.
Heroine is a female hero.
The word your looking for is heroin.
You miss the point that these people are already taking heroin though. Either you can ptotect them and our communities, or you can attempt to hound down all street-level dealers, pouring more and more money down the drain.
We wish a lot of them wern't illegal either.
I agree with this, if coke was available over the counter, I feel this would become a big problem, think of all the times you are out of gear at 6am and everyone is all keen ringing anyone and everyone for just another half! ha ha if it was accessible in a couple of hours I know loads of people who would gladly wait up to get some more if it was that easy to get! I think drugs should be legalised but only in severe cases, I mean it is only a problem to those that cant afford it and therefore commit crimes in order to get their next hit, those that have the money i.e. celebrities can get it whenever they want…………. and they seem to handle it well………… and when they cant they can just go to the priory (?) for a couple of weeks……….
Except that no one is arguing that are they? If you're going to debate Kentish, please try and be honest.
Point of note: crystal meth is not new.
Not necessarily.
year after year.
except in countries with a more sensible approach.