God Bless America

Former Member · December 2005

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Former Member · December 2005

i'm completely ignorant of the man and the case.
read the link ...he sounds like a highly inteligent and respected man.

Former Member · December 2005

It seems like a mess to me. I'd like to know what solid evidence there is against him for a start. Then again its unlikely a Republican senator is ever going to see any sense. Apologies and get redemption? ha!

Former Member · December 2005

Born Slippy wrote:

ghastly Tutu thing

Anyway, no I don't think he should be killed, firstly because I don't believe in the death penalty and secondly he sounds like a man who's genuinely sorry for his sins, 4 life sentences, yes, death, no.

Former Member · December 2005

Born Slippy wrote:

Your thoughts?

That you're a prick .......

Former Member · December 2005

Not sure how man killing man can ever be described as sanity. In fact this is a sad day for humanity and civilisation.

Former Member · December 2005

and will their god realy bless them for injecting deadly chemicals into a man?

the americans strike me as being very like the taliban.

i mean ...banning beer in the twenties ...did you know their were some at the time who wanted to take it further and force all men to have a beard?

Former Member · December 2005

I believe it is wrong to take a human life; I see an execution as worse than murder.

Former Member · December 2005

By the time i get up tomorrow, he'll be gone.

R.I.P Tookie Williams.

Former Member · December 2005

fry. yehaw

Former Member · December 2005

That's really creepy in a way, at 8:01 this morning I was kicking the boyfriend telling him to get up so I could have the whole bed, while that man was being killed.....

In honesty, I have no idea what this case is but I'm intrigued so I will read on....

[EDIT] He was declared dead at 0835. Still reading, though I'm not sure what to think...

Former Member · December 2005

BS, could you explain to me why God would be happy that someone has been killed?

Former Member · December 2005

You were off sick the day they were teaching the importance of subtlety at trolling school, were you Born Slippy?

But with regard to the actual execution, well it has confirmed what I had suspected. That far from being an okay fella with just the wrong policies Arnold Schwarzenegger is, in fact, a cunt.

Former Member · December 2005

If there was a strong enough case to keep him alive since 79 then there must be some uncertainty and doubt in there ... How can you kill someone that you dont KNOW did it =\ :no:

Former Member · December 2005

Another state sanctioned murder.

But Slippy knew we'd feel like that which is why he posted this shite.

Former Member · December 2005

just heard on the radio that the poor guy was getting realy messed about ...it took ages!

Former Member · December 2005

boo hoo hoo

Former Member · December 2005

God Bless America

Why? Did she sneeze?

Former Member · December 2005

Former Member · December 2005

The whole justice system is based on the idea that a man or woman who, once convicted can change.

Hell, Tookie received a couple of Nobel Prize nominations for his charity work - do you not think that shows that he might have changed his life for the better? Owing to the nature of his crimes (though one of them is still under doubt), life imprisonment seems a more rational option but at least allow him to keep up the work he's doing.

Former Member · December 2005

was doing. Moot point now.

Former Member · December 2005

muse- wrote:

If there was a strong enough case to keep him alive since 79 then there must be some uncertainty and doubt in there ... How can you kill someone that you dont KNOW did it =\ :no:

Most death row inmates stay in prison for up to 20 years before their execution.

The double standards of America astoubd me, they yap on about China's human rights record while they also kill their prisoners.

Former Member · December 2005

Rampant nationalism has a way of blinding the majority to their own moral equivalency with others at whom they are wont to point the finger.

Former Member · December 2005

Former Member · December 2005

scarlettleeds wrote:

out of interest...does anyone know, are there any other so called 'civilised' nations that still use the death penalty?

If you're thinking along the lines of the EU then no.

Former Member · December 2005

scarlettleeds wrote:

out of interest...does anyone know, are there any other so called 'civilised' nations that still use the death penalty?

that guy in iraq who they just locked up ...the taliban who's fiekds of corn they just ploughed up to grow opium ...anywhere where the leaders don't shave.

clean shaven countries have moved on.
shame on america.

Former Member · December 2005

Former Member · December 2005

scarlettleeds wrote:

i wasn't just thinking about the EU, but all nations who claim to be civilised, democratic, and defenders of human rights, as opposed to ones that routinely carry out torture and human rights abuses. if there aren't any, then it puts the US is some pretty dubious company.

You'll not find many nations outside the EU who have rights like that.

Former Member · December 2005

From the Amnesty site:

Countries and territories that retain the death penalty for ordinary crimes

AFGHANISTAN
ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA
BAHAMAS
BAHRAIN
BANGLADESH
BARBADOS
BELARUS
BELIZE
BOTSWANA
BURUNDI
CAMEROON
CHAD
CHINA
COMOROS
CONGO (Democratic Republic)
CUBA
DOMINICA
EGYPT
EQUATORIAL GUINEA
ERITREA
ETHIOPIA
GABON
GHANA
GUATEMALA
GUINEA
GUYANA
INDIA
INDONESIA
IRAN
IRAQ
JAMAICA
JAPAN
JORDAN
KAZAKSTAN
KOREA (North)
KOREA (South)
KUWAIT
KYRGYZSTAN
LAOS
LEBANON
LESOTHO
LIBERIA
LIBYA
MALAWI
MALAYSIA
MONGOLIA
MOROCCO
MYANMAR
NIGERIA
OMAN
PAKISTAN
PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY
PHILIPPINES
QATAR
RWANDA
SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS
SAINT LUCIA
SAINT VINCENT & GRENADINES
SAUDI ARABIA
SIERRA LEONE
SINGAPORE
SOMALIA
SUDAN
SWAZILAND
SYRIA
TAIWAN
TAJIKISTAN
TANZANIA
THAILAND
TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
UGANDA
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
UZBEKISTAN
VIET NAM
YEMEN
ZAMBIA
ZIMBABWE

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGACT500052004?open&of=ENG-392

My country certainly emulates some real winners...

Former Member · December 2005

scarlettleeds wrote:

out of interest...does anyone know, are there any other so called 'civilised' nations that still use the death penalty?

* Antigua and Barbuda
* Bahamas
* Bahrain
* Bangladesh
* Barbados
* Belarus
* Belize
* Botswana
* Burundi
* Cameroon
* Chad
* China
* Comoros
* Congo (Democratic Republic)
* Cuba
* Dominica
* Egypt
* Equatorial Guinea
* Eritrea
* Ethiopia
* Gabon
* Ghana
* Guatemala
* Guinea
* Guyana
* India
* Indonesia
* Iran
* Iraq
* Jamaica
* Japan
* Jordan
* Kazakhstan
* Korea, North
* Korea, South
* Kuwait
* Kyrgyzstan
* Laos
* Lebanon
* Lesotho
* Liberia
* Libya
* Malawi
* Malaysia
* Mongolia
* Nigeria
* Oman
* Pakistan
* Palestinian Authority
* Philippines
* Qatar
* Rwanda
* St. Kitts and Nevis
* St. Lucia
* St. Vincent and the Grenadines
* Saudi Arabia
* Sierra Leone
* Singapore
* Somalia
* Sudan
* Swaziland
* Syria
* Taiwan
* Tajikistan
* Tanzania
* Thailand
* Trinidad and Tobago
* Uganda
* United Arab Emirates
* United States
* Uzbekistan
* Vietnam
* Yemen
* Zambia
* Zimbabwe

* Albania (2000)
* Argentina (1984)
* Bolivia (1997)
* Brazil (1979)
* Chile (2001)
* Cook Islands (n.a.)

* El Salvador (1983)
* Fiji (1979)
* Israel (1954)
* Latvia (1999)

Former Member · December 2005

Actually Amnesty are wrong about the UK - the death penatly, as far as I'm aware, still exists for high treason, regicide and arson at the Queen's dockyards. Strange but still true.

The frightening thing about that list is that every nation on there is either a 3rd world country or a developing country except, you've guessed it, the United States.

God Bless America

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