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Not my problem.
And no explanation, nothing. Not even an apology. There was one bloke in the entire JSP who gave a toss, the rest of them didn't even have the dignity to speak to me.
Sixteen weeks I waited for my money. I nearly lost my house twice, and had red letters teeming through the letterbox. Do you think that me nearly being bankrupted because I waited nearly FOUR MONTHS for my money is "being unreasonable"?
If you do you're in the wrong fucking job.
Do I care if you are a bit overworked? Not when I'm being threatened with court, no.
And yes, when I have a girlfriend in tears at another bank red letter, yes, I do get a bit narked that jobcentre staff don't do their fucking job properly. It's not that hard.
And they didn't even have the fucking decency to apologise to me for making me beg for money from parents for four sodding months. Not a whisper from them.
If you think I'm being a "whinger" for getting narked at not getting a penny for four fucking months then you ARE a cunt.
Start a new thread if you want someone to notice your problem.
To answer, get a paper-round. Children under the age of 16 are severely restricted by law as to how much work they can do, and most companies don't take children on for this reason.
"Not my problem" says Kermit...
...but it obviously is.
If you didn't get any money for so long because there were no staff and the ones who were left were doing the work of three people, it is your problem.
Please enlighten us on what held your claim up for 16 weeks. I'd be fascinated to find out.
Jobseekers Allowance is what it says on the tin. You get an allowance for seeking jobs. You don't apply for them, you fuck around on courses and get thrown off, you give up your rights.
The days when someone could sit on their arse till the perfect job comes up are long gone.
Then again, my local council are shit and sometimes there seems to be absolutely no excuse.
Of course it's a struggle when job cuts are made the way they were with the DWP, but your attitude quite frankly stinks. Referring to people as "arseholes" simply because they are enquiring as to what is going on regarding their claim, makes you sound like a hard bitch. Sometimes you don't even get as much as a letter for months on end, and in the meantime you are struggling to survive. Don't you think they are entitled to be worried and anxious. Sure, you get your fair share of dossers, but any frontline workers have to deal with pricks regardless of the industry.
Moronic JCP staff who couldn't do their fucking jobs properly.
I'm against the Treasury-forced job cuts too, but hey, I'm not getting blamed by some jumped up mong for their fuck up. Me asking where my money is so, you know, I could afford to eat is not being "unreasonable". The attitude of this poster is everything that's wrong with the DWP- if someone complains, they're wrong, not the dozy little shitbag who couldn't be arsed to do their job.
It's not my problem that they're understaffed. The fact I could only eat by begging from the parents was my problem. Did the JCP staff give a flying fuck? Of course not. Arseholes.
Oh, and quit the smug bollocks. I'd actually had two interviews and found a job by the time the JCP got their finger out and paid me what I was owed.
A few things. Firstly its my tax money being used to increase the profit of a private company. That ain't right. Secondly, forcing people into crappy dead end jobs can be extremely damaging to their health. I work with recovering drug users, helping them access training, education and employment. The jobcentres often undo the work that I've done with clients by forcing them onto totally unsuitable training and "work experience" schemes (which are just free labour for private companies), putting them in danger of relapse. Unfortunately, New Deal is compulsory once someone has been on JSA for a certain amount of time and a lot of JCP advisors don't give a shit about individual people's needs - its all about the stats.
This is exactly the sort of shitty attitude I'm talking about. Look - if someone is longterm unemployed, its a fair bet they have some problems. Mental health, alcohol, drugs, emotional etc. Why do you think that having a job is the answer to everything?
Kermit, dear, you obviously didn't notice my italics. Please pay attention before launching a verbal assault...
I asked about the reasons for your delay because, in case you didn't realise it, Jobcentre staff DO NOT process claims for JSA. They check through your forms, interview you, then send the forms to staff at the Benefits Agency to do the actual processing.
Now THAT is a different story, because these staff don't have to face the anger of claimants who aren't getting their money. Jobcentre staff haven't processed JSA claims since Oct '96. They just have to do the public-facing element of the job. In other words, BA staff can take forever cos they don't have to suffer any shit resulting from their actions, whereas Jobcentre staff have to take all the shit for stuff that usually isn't their fault.
This is why I asked for the reason for your delay. Did you not give all the information needed? Did your former employer drag their feet about supplying details to the BA staff? Apart from rubbishing the Jobcentre staff, you haven't explained.
Some Jobcentre staff have never been unemployed and so have no concept of what it is like to live on benefits. On the other hand, many staff have gone from one side of the counter to the other, and these staff will obviously have more empathy with the claimants.
I am one of these. I spent 8 years on the dole (with a family to try and feed), and now I am one of the 'cunts' myself.
Have a nice day
isnt calling someone judgemental being judgemental yourself?
Eh?
So why are loads of my clients on JSA then? When they should be on IS? (I'm a P2W worker btw).
Yes, well, this is the problem. Decent advisors seem to be few and far between. Most advisors don't actually know where to refer people to, most haven't even heard of P2W.
The point is, that forcing people on New Deal doesn't help people.
What on earth are you on about?
Yep, you've got a really shitty attitude. Its JCP advisors like you that cause the fucking problems. :mad: :mad: :mad:
Yet another example of the shitty attitudes of some JCP staff. You seem to think that you're doing people a personal favour by sorting their claim out.
Get over yerself love.
:rolleyes:
You said some people are so judgemental, therefore, you are judging them.
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What a shit post.
Yea I know, when I have to go down to your level and explain everything in MotherCare terms it kind of defeats the point.
What does this add to the thread? Apart from enabling you to be a twat.
if you have nothing better to do then insult me, then Im sorry for your process of thought.
Errrr...you're the one that started derailing the thread. Why, I don't know.
Your attitude fucking stinks.
I'm a "foul mouthed jumped up prick" because I dare to complain that I nearly lost everything. No wonder you get so much abuse off your clients, if you have that attitude. You deserve it, and the clients know it, and you know it.
To sit there and call me "jumped up" is really quite laughable, you obnoxious person.
I was right. If you think my treatment by JCP was acceptable, then you ARE a cunt.
As Blagsta says, you are symptomatic of everything that's wrong with JCP.
A few things:
1. I am always very polite to people in customer service roles. I've done enough of them.
2. The branch staff were excellent, the problem was the people up the road who couldn't do their jobs. No apology from them; the branch staff were apologetic, but it doesn't count from them because it wasn't their fault.
3. I am well aware the forms were processed elsewhere.
4. That the forms were processed in an office with JOB CENTRE PLUS on the door makes me think it is JCP staff doing it.
Don't try and be clever with me.
If you are given commitments then you should go to them. I don't have sympathy with those who don't attend because "it's a waste of my time"; it may well be, but them's the rules. You want the money, you play by the rules.
This applies to the OP more than anything else. Freethemoron missed the point, but then it always does.
On a wider scale, the New Deal system absolutely stinks. It doesn't help people get jobs or get well enough to get jobs, all it does is take them off the unemployed list and make them spend their time doing soul-destroying menial tasks.
New Deal is the worst thing that can happen to many drug abusers, as it undoes most of the work done by Probation and by drug abuse professionals. It fails to stretch people, it fails to educate people, and it fails to give them any feeling of self-worth. All of which are vital to getting people into work, as most people don't like being spongers.
Peachy appears to be one of those minion civil servants who thinks that they are doing the world a favour, and everyone should bow down and kiss their feet. And she is symptomatic of the very worst of JCP managers, those who think that anyone who dares to complain about anything is a "scrounger", and that if they get a job their employer "needs their head examined". The failings of the JCP are mostly when obnoxious and smug managers decide that every client is scum, and that these scum are wasting everybody's time by breathing.
Not to blow my own trumpet or anything, but it amuses me because I'm probably much less scummy and stupid than her.
As someone who is paid indirectly from the government purse, not all CS staff are spongers. Fool.
I wasnt referring to every branch of the civil service, sorry If I wasnt lucid enough in my post. Im tired of the layers and layers of parasites within these state run bureacracies NHS DWP etc who administer a system which is supposedly for the best interests of the most vulnerable but in reality they line thier own pockets nicely whilst ensuring to keep people in the poverty trap.
Dont think it is by chance that so many people have problems getting the service/entitlements they need it is purposefully designed this way to put people off, and it works.