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The thread was about the playboy bunny though...
There's more of a point with this, which is why I mentioned french connection.
The first one is funny though. It's a pun, it's nothing major.
I also think, in the case of girls young enough that their parents have an input into what they buy and wear, that it reflects on the parents too.
What is so terrible about a girl wearing a sparkly neon top with a rabbit's head on it?
That in most cases she won't be stupid, and actually knows exactly what it implies.
Sorry, I misread the connection between the two at the start of the thread.
I still think that there is a connection, and no, it's not as bad as some like "fancy a fcuk?" which is vulgar. But the connection to sex, and more importantly sexual activitity so young I think is still not a good thing.
I agree with you. It's not the imagery that is the problem, it's the implication. There aren't 2 people fucking or a women with her legs spread open on the front of the t-shirt but the child wearing it and people who see it know exactly what's being implied; especially if there's a accompanying slogan. I think there's a difference between being open and honest about sex, and advocating your 12 year old girl wearing a t-shirt assosiated with glamorised prostitutes.
They're tasteful shirts generally, they're not vulgar, the only problem seems to be the origination of the brand. I don't walk down the street and see a playboy shirt thinking "I bet she's gagging for it"- anyone who does should seek psychiatric help.
The only problem I'd have is with children wearing labelled clothing full stop, because I think it encourages greed and consumerism.
We're not debating what constitutes fashionable clothing, it's the implication behind what's been worn that raises corncern. Seriously Kermit, would you let your 8 / 10 / 13 yr old girl go out wearing a Playboy t-shirt?
To create comparisson, i could go out wearing a lovely looking t-shirt with "25 Cromwell Street" written across the chest. The t-shirt itself isn't offensive, the implication is.
I think the Playboy shirts are OK, as designer labels go. I wouldn't have any special problem with it.
I think they're tacky, but I think a lot of labelled products are tacky. I would want my child to have more taste.
I wouldn't buy one for her, because I think they are tacky, not because someone, somewhere, might think that my eight-year-old daughter is an easy shag. Anyone who would think that should be in Broadmoor.
A t-shirt is not an invitation to sex, nor is it a suggestion that the person is "easy".
To think otherwise means that it is you who has a problem, not the person who bought/wears the garment.
Again, this isn't the point in question, but for the record i don't think for one second a 13yr old girl wearing a Playboy t-shirt is "easy" or inviting sex and i don't think i've implied that anywhere either. The slogans that appear alongside the imagery are however distasteful at best when worn by young girls. I also wonder if the kids wearing these t-shirts have seen the magazines that they are advertising? If my daughter wanted a Playboy t-shirt and was kicking up a fuss over my refusal to buy her one, i'd go out and buy the magazine and show her what exactly it was she was assosiating herself with.
The slogans mentioned here.
And why do you object to them?
They're printed on playboy t-shirts are they not?
Girls as young as 8 wearing t-shirts with those slogans on them doesn't seem distasteful to you?
Maybe I'm a Bad Person, but I don't think that "I'm good in bed, i can sleep for days" is distasteful and destroying the moral fabric of society. I don't think any slogan does, although I would quite happily make the "amusing" puns from french connection illegal.
Sorry, that was a generic "you" rather than a specific one.
Ah ok, i may have misread the ealier post then.
I don't think the moral fabric of society is going to be torn apart by these slogan t-shirts. I do think though that either dressing young children or allowing young chidren to dress themselves in t-shirts with the Playboy logo shows a lack of understanding on the childs part of the brand they're advocating and associating themselves with and says a lot about the parents. Dressing your young child in clothing assosiated with the adult sex industy just smacks of thoughtlessness and tack IMO.
But I don't understand how the inference can then be made that it makes children look "cheap" and "easy", and "sexualises young children". The fact that people think a Playboy t-shirt makes a child sexual says more about the people than the child.
Wow, for the first time in a while i find myself in complete agreement with you!
My obvious inabilty to read the thread properly at the start