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Playboy logo used to sell childrens' commodities

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Saw a little girl on the bus today, she was about 8/9. She had a tattoo of the playboy bunny on her arm. Presumably it was fake, but who knows!?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote:
    Something with just the playboy bunny on, no.

    The thread was about the playboy bunny though...
    My problem is with the slogans piccolo gave at the start of the thread.

    There's more of a point with this, which is why I mentioned french connection.

    The first one is funny though. It's a pun, it's nothing major.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    That says more about the person viewing the child than it does about the child herself.

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    I also think, in the case of girls young enough that their parents have an input into what they buy and wear, that it reflects on the parents too.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Museman wrote:
    I also think, in the case of girls young enough that their parents have an input into what they buy and wear, that it reflects on the parents too.
    I'll ask again, as nobody seems to have answered it yet.

    What is so terrible about a girl wearing a sparkly neon top with a rabbit's head on it?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    I'll ask again, as nobody seems to have answered it yet.

    What is so terrible about a girl wearing a sparkly neon top with a rabbit's head on it?

    That in most cases she won't be stupid, and actually knows exactly what it implies.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I dunno, I saw a baby Tshirt that said "I hide crack in my diaper" and another one "I'm breast fed- stick around for the show" that I considered buying for my God son. :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ive seen girls at school with playboy pencil cases, and i know loads have been wearing playboy underwear since they were about 13 aswell....the thing is, if i saw an 8/9 year old girl wearing a playboy t-shirt, it would sadden me. Because everyone knows what the playboy bunny is associated with - loads of blonde thin women posing near naked in a magazine...it's porn basically. And a child wearing something associated with porn isn't really appropiate for their age. Once they get to mid teens its not too bad, but younger, it's just not right. Well thats what i think.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    The thread was about the playboy bunny though...

    Sorry, I misread the connection between the two at the start of the thread.
    Kermit wrote:
    There's more of a point with this, which is why I mentioned french connection.

    The first one is funny though. It's a pun, it's nothing major.

    I still think that there is a connection, and no, it's not as bad as some like "fancy a fcuk?" which is vulgar. But the connection to sex, and more importantly sexual activitity so young I think is still not a good thing.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote:
    I still think that there is a connection, and no, it's not as bad as some like "fancy a fcuk?" which is vulgar. But the connection to sex, and more importantly sexual activitity so young I think is still not a good thing.

    I agree with you. It's not the imagery that is the problem, it's the implication. There aren't 2 people fucking or a women with her legs spread open on the front of the t-shirt but the child wearing it and people who see it know exactly what's being implied; especially if there's a accompanying slogan. I think there's a difference between being open and honest about sex, and advocating your 12 year old girl wearing a t-shirt assosiated with glamorised prostitutes.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm obviously in a minority who really doesn't see the problem.

    They're tasteful shirts generally, they're not vulgar, the only problem seems to be the origination of the brand. I don't walk down the street and see a playboy shirt thinking "I bet she's gagging for it"- anyone who does should seek psychiatric help.

    The only problem I'd have is with children wearing labelled clothing full stop, because I think it encourages greed and consumerism.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    I'm obviously in a minority who really doesn't see the problem.

    They're tasteful shirts generally, they're not vulgar, the only problem seems to be the origination of the brand. I don't walk down the street and see a playboy shirt thinking "I bet she's gagging for it"- anyone who does should seek psychiatric help.

    The only problem I'd have is with children wearing labelled clothing full stop, because I think it encourages greed and consumerism.

    We're not debating what constitutes fashionable clothing, it's the implication behind what's been worn that raises corncern. Seriously Kermit, would you let your 8 / 10 / 13 yr old girl go out wearing a Playboy t-shirt?

    To create comparisson, i could go out wearing a lovely looking t-shirt with "25 Cromwell Street" written across the chest. The t-shirt itself isn't offensive, the implication is.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Most people probably wouldn't get the allusion these days, tbh.

    I think the Playboy shirts are OK, as designer labels go. I wouldn't have any special problem with it.

    I think they're tacky, but I think a lot of labelled products are tacky. I would want my child to have more taste.

    I wouldn't buy one for her, because I think they are tacky, not because someone, somewhere, might think that my eight-year-old daughter is an easy shag. Anyone who would think that should be in Broadmoor.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The implication is put on the shirt by the adult looking at it, not the child wearing it.

    A t-shirt is not an invitation to sex, nor is it a suggestion that the person is "easy".

    To think otherwise means that it is you who has a problem, not the person who bought/wears the garment.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The implication is put on the shirt by the adult looking at it, not the child wearing it.

    A t-shirt is not an invitation to sex, nor is it a suggestion that the person is "easy".

    To think otherwise means that it is you who has a problem, not the person who bought/wears the garment.

    Again, this isn't the point in question, but for the record i don't think for one second a 13yr old girl wearing a Playboy t-shirt is "easy" or inviting sex and i don't think i've implied that anywhere either. The slogans that appear alongside the imagery are however distasteful at best when worn by young girls. I also wonder if the kids wearing these t-shirts have seen the magazines that they are advertising? If my daughter wanted a Playboy t-shirt and was kicking up a fuss over my refusal to buy her one, i'd go out and buy the magazine and show her what exactly it was she was assosiating herself with.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What slogans?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    piccolo wrote:
    I would object to girls aged about 13 wearing "I'm good in bed, I can sleep for days" or "Just did it" t-shirts and to me carrying a Playboy bag or pencil case is intended to be jsut as playfully sexual.

    The slogans mentioned here.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What have they got to with Playboy?

    And why do you object to them?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    What have they got to with Playboy?

    And why do you object to them?

    They're printed on playboy t-shirts are they not?

    Girls as young as 8 wearing t-shirts with those slogans on them doesn't seem distasteful to you?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No they're not, not any I've seen anyway. PLayboy shirts tend to simply be the rabbit's head motif. Which is decidedly not distasteful.

    Maybe I'm a Bad Person, but I don't think that "I'm good in bed, i can sleep for days" is distasteful and destroying the moral fabric of society. I don't think any slogan does, although I would quite happily make the "amusing" puns from french connection illegal.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i don't think i've implied that anywhere either.

    Sorry, that was a generic "you" rather than a specific one.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    No they're not, not any I've seen anyway. PLayboy shirts tend to simply be the rabbit's head motif. Which is decidedly not distasteful.

    Maybe I'm a Bad Person, but I don't think that "I'm good in bed, i can sleep for days" is distasteful and destroying the moral fabric of society. I don't think any slogan does, although I would quite happily make the "amusing" puns from french connection illegal.

    Ah ok, i may have misread the ealier post then.

    I don't think the moral fabric of society is going to be torn apart by these slogan t-shirts. I do think though that either dressing young children or allowing young chidren to dress themselves in t-shirts with the Playboy logo shows a lack of understanding on the childs part of the brand they're advocating and associating themselves with and says a lot about the parents. Dressing your young child in clothing assosiated with the adult sex industy just smacks of thoughtlessness and tack IMO.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yes, the shirts are tacky and show bad taste in clothing.

    But I don't understand how the inference can then be made that it makes children look "cheap" and "easy", and "sexualises young children". The fact that people think a Playboy t-shirt makes a child sexual says more about the people than the child.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    Yes, the shirts are tacky and show bad taste in clothing.

    But I don't understand how the inference can then be made that it makes children look "cheap" and "easy", and "sexualises young children". The fact that people think a Playboy t-shirt makes a child sexual says more about the people than the child.

    Wow, for the first time in a while i find myself in complete agreement with you! :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Wow, for the first time in a while i find myself in complete agreement with you! :p
    Why have you spent the last three hours disagreeing with me then?:p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    Why have you spent the last three hours disagreeing with me then?:p

    My obvious inabilty to read the thread properly at the start :blush:
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