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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    no one's going to judge you for your opinion Reich, whether they agree or not, they might have something to say in response! but no one will try to beat you over it. at least no one here will. unless its a subject thats close to their heart for one reason or another, in which case they may become heated. but you're perfectly entitled to your opinion and people will respect it.

    i happen to disagree with you myself <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; but i can see both sides of the coin. i just believe it should be an option.
    It's better to regret things you've done than things you haven't.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    okay i've done some more thinking....see the whole thing started with my LA class in school, i picked Why abortion is bad for a topic to write about. And when i came on the net to research it alls i found was the bad stuff. I mean like did everyone out there know that after the 3-4 week of conception the heart beat of the baby can be felt??? And then by the 8th week a baby has it's own finger prints and can feel pain??? I never knew that stuff and with learning all of that and more it just maybe me dislike abortions even more because to me if feels like you are killing an alive but not born child. I just....i don't know how to put it into words. But if i would be pregnant and be going through that kind of stuff i might feel different. I just dont think i would be able to live with myself if i would have an abortion......but then again i haven't been put into that position. It's hard to give real feelings towards something like Abortion when it hasn't be a problem for you!!!!! well nite nite........
    ~N.Reich
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think we should stop for a second and figure out the facts about abortion before we judge. There has been some really scary misinformation given out here.

    My big concern is the belief that a fetus feels pain. Anti-abortion activists have always used this argument to make their case, but it simply isn't true. A fetus is incapable of feeling pain until very late in the pregnancy: week 28. The central nervous system, which is required to relay pain messages to the brain has not devloped enough until then. I checked the statistics for Britain, and over 92% of abortions are performed by the end of the first trimester and,99.95% of abortions are performed by week 24. Late abortions are extremely rare, and in every country I know of, only performed if the mother's life is at immediate risk. By the way, the fetus doesn't feel pain during this type of abortion either. The mother is given a local or general anesthesia, both of which travel through the plancenta and anesthetize the fetus as well.

    Just thought that the facts should be made clear so people can make informed decisions.

    I am happy to respect anyone's opinion, even if it has been formed without all the facts. The only thing I can't respect are pro-life people who think that they have the right to make that decision to have an abortion for me. It's my body, my decision, end of story.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Burnout_Girl:
    I think we should stop for a second and figure out the facts about abortion before we judge. There has been some really scary misinformation given out here.

    My big concern is the belief that a fetus feels pain. Anti-abortion activists have always used this argument to make their case, but it simply isn't true. A fetus is incapable of feeling pain until very late in the pregnancy: week 28. The central nervous system, which is required to relay pain messages to the brain has not devloped enough until then. I checked the statistics for Britain, and over 92% of abortions are performed by the end of the first trimester and,99.95% of abortions are performed by week 24. Late abortions are extremely rare, and in every country I know of, only performed if the mother's life is at immediate risk. By the way, the fetus doesn't feel pain during this type of abortion either. The mother is given a local or general anesthesia, both of which travel through the plancenta and anesthetize the fetus as well.

    Just thought that the facts should be made clear so people can make informed decisions.

    I am happy to respect anyone's opinion, even if it has been formed without all the facts. The only thing I can't respect are pro-life people who think that they have the right to make that decision to have an abortion for me. It's my body, my decision, end of story.

    Well said burnout girl!

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    All that was very well put and I did stop to think....i dont know which to believe, i have found in a few differnt places on the net and in books that the baby can feel pain...but then when you said about how the mother is like put out that is a good point that the baby won't feel pain. But i still don't think it is right. and i am not trying to tell you how to run your body or anything like that just like i wouldn't expect you to tell me. I just believe there are many ways you could go about having a baby rather then getting an abortion. Abortions are just becoming so common these days....i mean in a few years what is going to happen??? I just can't sit back and not say anything. But hey if abortion is the way you want to go then there is nothing i can do about it and i am not goin to sit here and yell at you...i'll just voice my thoughts about how i don't think it's right...
    but i guess some people can't really help if they have to get an abortion if their parents are making them or their man walks out on them and that is really sad to hear. I just have so many mixed feelings about this whole issue and when i type it it more then likely doesn't sound right at all but at least i can say i tried!!!
    well have a happy new year everyone.
    N.Reich
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Wouldn't it be a better idea to educate people more and give them routes, rather than straight to the abortion clinic like u,
    I think that people should keep up their responsibilities than just get rid of them the easiest way.
    One of my best m8's had a baby when she was 15 and she makes a better mother than any other I've seen and she still got one of the best grades at Gcse
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i think im slightly offended by j9's view, but im also glad that she expressed it.
    i was pregnant, through rape. and as much as i wanted to give the child a right to life, i couldnt go through with the pregnancy.
    the guy who would be the "father" found out i was going down this path. and lets just say i didnt have an abortion but i didnt have a baby.
    a catholic friend in school tells me that what he did is a punishment for what i considered doing and was going to carry through. i dont know what to think.
    there are so many different teen pregnancy situations, u cant possibly have one right answer for them all. at the end of the day, it's a personal decision, and people shouldnt be so hard on those that opt that way.
    its easy to say that youre against abortion, and that its wrong, when you havent faced the fear of the situation.
    if you can go through with it, well done i say. and lisa, your friend is amazing.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    hey j9, i so didnt see it that way. it was just my way of saying i disagree, u no?
    dont frown-u never know who's falling in love with your smile!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i didnt think you were doing it to be deliberately wotever, it was just my way of saying i disagreed. im glad that u get ur views across, and that everyone on here has a different one.
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    dont frown-u never know who's falling in love with your smile!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: the post above from Rachel Holmes, yet another spoiled, selfish person interested only in self-gratification, i am not surprised. all i ever hear is how traumatic a rape pregnancy is on the rape victim, how 'bout the children?? Abortion is murder, no matter how that fetus got inside of you--and still part of you! What you did was best 4u, but what about the baby -- did you ever stop to think about him/her>>apparently not. i myself happen to have been born of rape, and i hate the way we "rape babies" are treated as disposable. what complete and utter bull. Most of the time, the woman wasn't truly raped anyway...she just needs a good excuse to get out of being pregnant...which more people would believe if they actually look at the statistics of rape pregancies. Oy vey!

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by mrsrb921:
    Re: the post above from Rachel Holmes, yet another spoiled, selfish person interested only in self-gratification, i am not surprised. all i ever hear is how traumatic a rape pregnancy is on the rape victim, how 'bout the children?? Abortion is murder, no matter how that fetus got inside of you--and still part of you! What you did was best 4u, but what about the baby -- did you ever stop to think about him/her>>apparently not. i myself happen to have been born of rape, and i hate the way we "rape babies" are treated as disposable. what complete and utter bull. Most of the time, the woman wasn't truly raped anyway...she just needs a good excuse to get out of being pregnant...which more people would believe if they actually look at the statistics of rape pregancies. Oy vey!


    Ok, this is going one step further on the abortion issue. I have never really stated my views, mainly because I don't like the argument.

    Personally, I think the idea of abortion is fair enough: I'm male myself, so maybe that affects the view. I'm also a teen - i've never had children of my own, which probably affects my views as well.


    I've not lost my mind it's inserted elsewhere - hence the limp.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by mrsrb921:
    Re: the post above from Rachel Holmes, yet another spoiled, selfish person interested only in self-gratification


    what post?
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    im sorry ive forgotten your name, mrsb something? anyway you know who you are...

    how can you say that RachaelHolmes is selfish and spoilt and only interested in self gratification?? did we actually read the same post? she stated clearly she considered adoption, and after hearing of someone who WAS conceived from rape and then adopted, finding out, decided this wasnt something she wanted to wish upon her baby. and that she felt suicidal, this isnt a "spoilt and selfish" mind at work. she was willing to kill herself to prevent the spawn of this rapist from living.

    people who are raped go through enough, they dont need the reminder every single day of their ordeal by looking after their child. and loving something that was brought into the world by such a horrific act.

    your mum must have been very strong to carry you to term and then care for you, as yu were conceived of rape. but i know i couldnt do it. and people are entitled to their own opinions about this, abortion is legal, and surely it is a better alternative than the victim having to commit suicide??
    If you don't know where you're going, you'll probably end up somewhere else.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Girl-From-Mars:
    im sorry ive forgotten your name, mrsb something? anyway you know who you are...

    Yes, my name is mrsrb921, thank you!

    >>how can you say that RachaelHolmes is selfish and spoilt and only interested in self gratification??

    because I read her post

    >>did we actually read the same post? she stated clearly she considered adoption, and after hearing of someone who WAS conceived from rape and then adopted, finding out, decided this wasnt something she wanted to wish upon her baby.

    Ohh...she "heard about" someone who was born of rape and adopted...so that gives her the right to "play God" with the life growing inside of HER?? Besides, that sad testimony from the person born of rape...did anyone ask that person if s/he would have preferred not to be BORN??...It takes hard work to come to terms with yourself when you find this out about yourself, but to "spare" us by not letting us live??...puh-leez...

    >> and that she felt suicidal, this isnt a "spoilt and selfish" mind at work. she was willing to kill herself to prevent the spawn of this rapist from living.

    That "spawn of a rapist" is also her spawn, don't forget!!

    >>people who are raped go through enough, they dont need the reminder every single day of their ordeal by looking after their child. and loving something that was brought into the world by such a horrific act.

    And children born of rape certainly don't need regular reminders of how "traumatic" of a reminder they are...ever heard of "adoption"?

    >>your mum must have been very strong to carry you to term and then care for you, as yu were conceived of rape. but i know i couldnt do it. and people are entitled to their own opinions about this, abortion is legal, and surely it is a better alternative than the victim having to commit suicide??

    --Yes, abortion is legal, but so is adoption. There are no easy answers in this kind of situation, but at least in adveryone walks away relatively happy...and alive.

    --mrsrb921

    [This message has been edited by mrsrb921 (edited 19-01-2001).]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hey everyone! I don't think teen pregnency is such a bad thing. My friend is 16 and 2months pregnet, I think its wonderful. Pregnency is something wonderful we shoulden't kill it with abortion and make it out like it ruins your life. It doesen't ruin your life its a blessing. It may be hard to go to school at the same time but you can take homeschooling,alternative school were you only go 3 hours, also you can quiet and get a GED by taking a test and go to college with it all you have to be is 17 to take a GED test. Its not bad, if it was then why would god give it to us.

    Ash
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hey everyone! I think it is wrong to say that teenage pregnency is wrong cause its not totally wrong it doesen't realy ruin your life. How can something that is part of you ruin your life by brining a life into the world. My friend is 16 and pregnet and she is keeping it. I am trying to help her out and no it doesen't ruin your life cause they have this insurance called medacade that pays for all the stuff she needs for it. Consider it a blessing to have a child.

    Ash
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    *read this topic the first time round*

    *is getting heartily sick of all the abortion/pregnancy topic around at the moment*

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    dude. post. dead

    People, look at the date! This post hasnt been opened since January, its well and truly dead! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    But if it is just because you don't want to mess up your life you should have thought about that before you had sex!!!

    I would just like to point out the fact that unwanted pregnancy is unwanted because it was a mistake. Not everyone who falls pregnant is stupid and irresponsible. Sometimes things happen no matter how good your intentions are. Life may not give you a choice. People have sex before they are ready to have a child, this is not their intention. Plenty of people get away with not using contraception, and plenty of people are responsible but something basically beyond their control goes wrong. I just think that we need to stop judging others so harshly. You do not have to agree, but if you have never been in the same shoes you have absolutely no right to criticise someone else's decision.
    This above all, to thine own self be true.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    will you all just leave this fucking topic alone!!! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/mad.gif"&gt;
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    sometimes you've just got to keep going....
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