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Acid Dilemma
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Doing it tomorrow, should I:
A) Do it in a place I know fairly well, but is far from home, with people I know pretty well but am certainly not great friends with.
or
Do it at home with a few close mates who will not be on it. (No parents or responsibilities to worry about).
I am really all for doing it, but I think the fear of a bad trip is the only thing making me apprehensive. I really have to try it as I love doing shrooms and I have heard so many good things of it, but then a few bad. In general, is a bad trip something that will only last until the drug wears off? I only plan on doing one tab (max of 200mg drop), is this enough to make me lose complete touch of reality and send me into one? Or does it alter my state of mind in such a way that I will go completely crazy and be able to rationalize jumping off a bridge (one tab, remember)?
I have made the decision already I am doing it, I just want to clear up exactly how strong the trip will be for the amount I'm doing and I also want to know the better setting. Is there a 9/10 chance I will have an good time? I do have some bad shit going on in my life, but I'm very open about how I feel and have no thoughts or feelings hidden away from people. I think doing it with close mates will be better because they can keep an eye on me, but don't know if this would be the better way. Sorry if these questions are stupid, but this is the first drug I've thought about in advance of doing it. I have a lot of experience with other drugs, mushrooms being the only hallucinogen (apart from pills and skunk which I personally don't see as hallucinogens but technically are).
All advice appreciated, suppose I'm really just worried for what to expect.
ETA: A lot of people I talk to say it's easier to have a bad trip off shrooms and that an acid trip is much 'happier', how true is this?
A) Do it in a place I know fairly well, but is far from home, with people I know pretty well but am certainly not great friends with.
or
Do it at home with a few close mates who will not be on it. (No parents or responsibilities to worry about).
I am really all for doing it, but I think the fear of a bad trip is the only thing making me apprehensive. I really have to try it as I love doing shrooms and I have heard so many good things of it, but then a few bad. In general, is a bad trip something that will only last until the drug wears off? I only plan on doing one tab (max of 200mg drop), is this enough to make me lose complete touch of reality and send me into one? Or does it alter my state of mind in such a way that I will go completely crazy and be able to rationalize jumping off a bridge (one tab, remember)?
I have made the decision already I am doing it, I just want to clear up exactly how strong the trip will be for the amount I'm doing and I also want to know the better setting. Is there a 9/10 chance I will have an good time? I do have some bad shit going on in my life, but I'm very open about how I feel and have no thoughts or feelings hidden away from people. I think doing it with close mates will be better because they can keep an eye on me, but don't know if this would be the better way. Sorry if these questions are stupid, but this is the first drug I've thought about in advance of doing it. I have a lot of experience with other drugs, mushrooms being the only hallucinogen (apart from pills and skunk which I personally don't see as hallucinogens but technically are).
All advice appreciated, suppose I'm really just worried for what to expect.
ETA: A lot of people I talk to say it's easier to have a bad trip off shrooms and that an acid trip is much 'happier', how true is this?
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it is an incredible experience ...it's a trip ...a journey.
the only don't ...and very important ...is you don't experience lsd if your struggling with serious emotional issuses ...a recent death ...a great loss ...a looming serious situation.
lsd is not a drug to escape from your problems ...lsd is ...a holiday in chemical form.
twelve hours of sunshine in the middle of the night and your still capable of buying a newspaper and a packet of fags ...the large dilated eyes and the smile of a religous nutcase ...can be off putting for the petrol station guy as you walk in going wow man ...
it's to be celebrated and enjoyed ...
and no matter where you go on this stuff ...i bet i been further.
goodnight ...have a good trip.
Not a good idea at all, If you feel comfortable with, and trust the friends in the first option I would go for that as it is your first time.
It's not fair to your closest mates if you try it and they don't know about it, or have had no experience of dealing with it.
How do you know how strong the tab is? We had paper trips last weekend and they were soo weak, so we took the sugar cubes we bought aswell (we already knew they were quite strong from someone elses experience from the week before).
This of course leads people to say 'oh its not like it used to me' but whats the difference in taking four 50mcg hits or one 200?
Personally I have never found acid to be something I can do in the company of others, unless its a low dose with amphet and MDMA.
However, others dont like doing hallucinogens by themselves, they find it too introspective.
As for the enviroment, if your going to be around people it may well be better that they are sharing in the experience.
It is unlikely to be the 'heaven and hell' type classic acid experience everyone thinks it will be. You need to do 300mcg+ for that to happen.
As for mushies or acid being happier than the other, no, thats rubbish, they are just different thats all. Some people prefer one, others the other. I find acid less visual and more introspective.
I would also say not to smoke pot during the experience, it can make you confused and get your thought patterns stuck in loops.
Get him to put the liquid onto a suger cube.
Did he tell you they were 200mg or 200mcg?
mg = miligram 1000 = 1g
mcg = microgram 1,000,000 = 1g
A threshold dose of LSD-25 is about 30-40mcg, with the normal dose being about 150mcg ish, doses in the 60's were normally about 250-300mcg.
Considering somehow doing the dose in 2 halves. Will it take 1-2 hours to come up and know what sort of level I'm at?
It wont be 200mg, though listen to what he says, if he says miligrams then you will know he doesnt know what he's talking about.
You will start to feel the acid within about 15mins if you let the suger cube disolve on your tounge. There will be the come up which will last about 45mins after that, your'll be excitable, slightly on edge though not in a bad way. Then it will plateu and the next 4 hours or so will be slightly calmer, giggly and visual. Then the last 3-5 hours will be more introspective, your'll be less energetic.
from my own experience. do it only with others who are doing it - otherwise you mightn't be able to relax around them - they could put you on edge as you will know they are not on acid. we had this once and the non acid taker wrecked everyones head. gather good music, books, games etc - lots of people get fidgety on acid so have stuff to do - plus gadgets and good music are great when on acid. clear you day - make sure you will not have anything to do - turn mobile off - etc. if i was feeling sick or anything like that i wouldnt do it - you'll take that into your buzz, y'know. main thing - relax.
in case anyone freaks out - vitamin c apparantly helps bring you down a bit -i have found this to work but it may be a placebo effect.
I'm sorry to burst you bubble but vitamin C has no effect on LSD what so ever.
LSD is barely even in your body after the first 4 hours, no-ones really sure why it works for another 6.
The only thing its really useful for is for flushing amphetamines out of your body.
is there any sure way to come down off acid that's practical? - one pill makes you big - the other makes you small?
anyway ...he should by now have travelled shouldn't he?
wonder when he's going to land ...and where?
But of course everyone is different.
As for coming down off acid, there is one drug which is supposed to stop the effect dead, though I cant remember its name and its stupidly rare. Most times if you present yourself into A&E or somewhere they will just talk you down and give you a benzo.
However, giving someone who's going wrong a benzo might well be a bad idea. Yes it might stop them worrying that very second, but the trip might have brought up things that need to be dealt with then, to cover that with a benzo might be damaging.
There is a lot more information in Erowid's LSD Vaults for those who want to do some research....
I have heard some reports about using MDMA near the end of a trip to facilitate the person to verbalise and formulate what they have learnt. Though of course I wouldnt recomend this.
No, becuase that would be mixing drugs which is absolutely not recommended by The Site either. :no:
This leads to the edgy feeling, dilated pupils and slightly increased heart rate.
yeah - the eyes are the most obvious effect - we went out last Sat night after mushies and althought we were fine to be in public - we all had eyes like dinner plates and i was actually surprised that the doorman let us in without an inquisition. is there any way to get rid theses eyes? like some sort of eye drops or something?
Though thats probably unwise.
Too much of one or the other and it ends up going wierd.
Plus the comedown can be horrific.
If your planning to try both, make sure you are experienced with both seperately first.
The line is "Always thinking that behind some door in his favouraite bar there would be people getting incredible kicks from things he'd never know."