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Greg Dyke has resigned
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This is rediculous!
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You can bet that The Sun will make everything they can out of this because Murdock wants the licence fee scrapped.
Time we started demanding the revocation of Murdoch's licenses and franchises!
About time Gilligan followed this lead
Starting with the compulsive liar Anthony Blair MP.
Two words spring to mind. Whitewash. Flawed. It is very honourable indeed of the BBC to let go its chairman and director general, especially when there must be doubts about the enquiry's findings on every thinking person's mind.
That the government, the MoD and the Mother of All Liars Alastair Campbell have been cleared of any wrongdoing and are now using this as "proof" or their integrity would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic and plain wrong.
What a load of fucking bollocks this is!
Indeed, the Chairman of the Conservative Party should be a good start - unfounded allegations....
Seriously, I wouldn't dispute that Mr Blair has much to answer for, but on this issue of the inquiry, I think that Hutton got it right, and you will recall that I said this right at the start.
Gilligan lied. Simple as.
You cannot apply hindsight to the inquiry - which is what Lord Hutton himself has said. If you want to apply that, then what you actually bring into question is our intelligence gathering, rather than whether Mr Blair knew he was lying...
Hmmm...from the report I'm been reading (All 320 pages) there's loads to suggest that Kelly did say what he said and Gilligan reported it as any interested journalist should, in the publics interest. Perhaps I've read the transcripts incorrectly but they are the same ones that Hutton read!
Is this the first step to a state controlled media?
And I am willing to accept that the BBC didnt appologise quick enough, or investigate as well they might.
But to say there was no strategy to name Dr. Kelly?! I mean come on!!
What I find utterly disgusting is that Blair, and even worse that sorry excuse for a human being Campbell are now having a field day, demanding apologies and resignations from everybody and claiming to be whiter than white.
This is from the people who were caught deliberately distorting information and presenting invalid and irrelevant data as evidence of Saddam's WMDs. To the UN Security Council, no less!
If the whole issue of the war on Iraq: the WMDs, the perceived threat, the links to terrorism, etc etc were to weigh 1kg, the issues covered by the Hutton enquiry would weigh about 7grs. That Blair, Campbell and co have not been found guilty of lying about those 7grs of issue does not clear them of lying about the other 993grs. Which they pretty much have.
I am sickened to my stomach by this ridiculous witch-hunt that leaves the biggest liars and wrongdoers in the land unscratched and free to carry on as if nothing had happened.
Please! A full and public judicial enquiry is what is needed, free of any interference from any level of government.
They lied to make war and theyve been lying to cover their previous lies ever since.
Which is all that the inquiry covered, which is al lthat was reported by Hutton.
You cannot therefore blame Hutton for not damning Blair
Can you?
@ byny. Suggest that you read a little more about why Hutton believes that Dr Kelly wasn't suggesting that the document was "sexed up" in the way which Gilligan reported... Hutton also explained the definition of the phrase...
Will do just that - I'm just reading the transcripts of Dr kelly's interviews at the momnet.
This is something all of us know. Something that is absolutely as undeniable as life and death: the government and/or the MoD are not free of wrongdoing in the Kelly affair. That Hutton did not or could not find any points to failings within the enquiry rather than 100% innocence for the government and MoD.
Frankly I think the whole thing stinks.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/01/284545.html
Not that I would particularly trust indymedia.org- they are horrifically biased, far more than Murdoch in fact, and their politics are quite often very distasteful:
Not that I wish to question their motives, but the decision on Pinochet was reached according to true legal principles and, unfortunately, result-led law is poor quality law.
(Sorry for derailment).
Back to Hutton, whether it is through incompetence or something more sinister he has got it so wrong it is breathtaking. I've been watching the news on several channels and this sorry episode has provoked the biggest collective eyebrow raising ever seen. From viewers’ polls to political observers to media commentators, most people find it simply unbelievable that Hutton came down on the BBC in such manner but let the Government and MoD off the hook completely. Even the CNN political commentator as raving about it earlier.
Most people also seem to think that the resignations were not necessary. Dyke was the best chairman the BBC has had for a long time. He will be missed.
Not to mention the damage (and unjust at that) being done to the BBC. Needless to say there are a lot of interested parties in damaging the BBC for various reasons. There are very dark forces at work here.
This day shall be remembered in infamy in the political history of this country. We cannot laugh at the corruption and big-brother tactics of the US government any more. This country is going down the same route. :mad:
God there is some abosolute horsecrap on there
It has been a tumultuous 36 hours but at least there is some positive outcome out of it:
- Other than the government and the S*n, the immense majority of the public as well as observers, commentators, politicians and just about everyone else appear to be on the agreement that it is supremely absurd that the government did not receive any criticism.
- The report was unbalanced at best, or more likely deeply flawed/biased.
- The BBC made a number of mistakes. However the BBC has apologised profusely for it, has indulged in some truly superb self-criticism and analysis over the last few days, and coupled with the resignations of the two heads, it can only be said that the BBC has acted with the utmost professionalism and dignity. This is what it makes the BBC the greatest broadcasting institution in the world.
- The resignation of Greg Dyke was unnecessary.
- The government on the other hand is being looked at as bullying and arrogant while demands for a judicial inquiry into why we went to war under false pretences grow lauder.
- To cap, this devastating blow to the BBC and vindication of the government appears to be turning and might yet to backfire spectacularly on the government.
Oh, how I enjoyed watching Margaret Beckett being savaged by the audience!
Just found this article from way back on 2000.....
From Times - 01/02/2000 (222 words) Paul McCann media editor
GREG DYKE was grilled by Sue Lawley on his first day at work yesterday without getting to choose any records.
The new Director-General of the BBC was addressing a staff meeting in London when the presenter of Desert Island Discs asked him what he would do if Alastair Campbell, the Prime Minister's press secretary, called him to complain about the Today programme. It was revealed last year that Mr Dyke had made a Pounds 50,000 donation to the Labour Party before the last election. He told staff that he would "thank Mr Campbell for the call and get on with my day".
'Moral Maze' listeners will have had a similarly pleasurable experience, as Melanie Phillips' arguments were derailed by a chilled out former drug dealer (and I thought another debate about cannabis would be boring).
I disagree, I've always thought that they did quite well... It's not easy to pick a true cross section and there are times when the opinion of the majority fits in with the overall BBC approach to a story...
Also, the Moral Maze was good wasnt it, I liked the bloke from the Brain and Mind centre, "Yes I have altered my mind with cannabis, and quite a lot of other things too, I dont see why not"
Radio Four is just so fantastic.