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Just wondering, what are you celebrating exactly on Christmas day? Surely every celebration has a reason behind it....
Are you celebrating the birth of Christ, or something else...? Now please....... I'm sure millions of children will be heartbroken if they found out that new years day is only for adults. Has celebrating new years day got an 18 certificate or something???
Btw, how was your Eid-Ul-Fitr? Had a good time?
You do realise that Eid-Ul-Fitr is also a time for getting together with the family, having dinner, giving presents to little ones and poor people etc that is celebrated by the muslim community don't you....
Anyway, what did you do on Eid-Ul-Fitr then??? ....... It was only last week.......
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The Santa/St Nicholas and other christian things are just part of the ethos surrounding the 'celebration'. i think its come completely detached from the ethical meaning of it all, for the majority of the population anyway
Excuse me Im not a muslim :rolleyes: So dont come here preaching muslim stuff, the thread is about Christmas NOT Eid-Ul-Fitr.
Sorry if you want to bring other stuff into it then do so, but I aint debating that here.
britain is a predominantly christian country. therefore, as a nation, we celebrate christmas and easter.
i'm sure in predominantly muslim countries, the masses celebrate eid-ul-fitr. but we're not in a predominantly muslim country.
But if your not a Christian, and you celebrate Christmas (to the extent that most British people do) ...... now that DOESN'T make sense.... :rolleyes:
Where did i say I wasnt a Christian ? I said I dont go to church, so please dont make assumptions about me.
You're a Christian, and you celebrate Christmas, and rightly so.
How would you define a Buddhist? A Hindu? A Sikh? I personally think that any religion or spiritual path would be hard to define to somebody who hasn't heard of it before.
You could argue that the word 'pagan' comes from the Latin term 'paganus' which means 'country dweller' and it generally does mean a person who reveres nature and who also follows a polytheistic religion.
Now if you look at the really old churches you could see carvings of what is thought to have been the 'green man', a representation of one of the gods of the celts (although obviously he would have had a name such as Cernnunos or Herne depending on the deity) in an attempt to try and covert the pagans there. But this is only hearsay, I dun have a link for it
Mmm... here's a link that describes paganism in general better better.
Paganism
What made me become pagan?
I grew up as a Christian and attended church in an attempt to try and win my father's love, however it didn't work. Anyway, at the age of 16 I actually looked deeper in to the Bible and found that it didn't work for me in the least, I felt fake attending church but kept at it for fear of being damned to hell. However, I have always had a fastination with the supernatural, divination and the occult since I was about thirteen. I'd been using the pendulum for simple dowsing and at seventeen I started tarot. I've always loved nature too and at the age of seventeen a good friend of mine died.
Man, that bollocksed me up especially as I'd had problems and illnesses too and I had a breakdown type thing of sorts, my body just shut off and I ended up in hospital. Through lots of therapy I got over issues such as my sexuality, my religion and slowly learnt to accept myself and left the unit all fine, recovered and whatnot.
So I spent the next two years just being me, adoring nature and marijuana and the fact that I no longer felt bound to a god that I no longer believed existed. I have always felt closer to nature and animals more than humans anyway, but what friends I had were scared to me.
And one day I just picked up a book called Druidcraft and it inspired me... I'm a very hard person to inspire but it took me. No real commitment, you don't have to prove anything and you can do what you want as long as you don't intentionally harm anybody. It's a religion of poetry, not theology and it's all about acceptance, about worshipping nature and the gods/goddess/mother earth & father sky depending on your path.
It just feels very right to me personally, which is why I chose it and I'm still learning, settling in nicely.
On the topic of Christmas I do not celebrate. This year I will be giving my presents on the 21st of December for Yule so as to keep my mother happy about the togetherness of the occasion. I'll also be joining my collegues for a Christmas dinner next week and will go out with members of my household on Christmas day for dinner... I don't see that as hypocrisy though. There is tradition and then there is religion... besides, Christianity borrows a lot from paganism.
Mistletoe anyone?
If you start a thread in this forum then im sorry it does concern me and im entitled to give opinion as I see fit.
If someone wants to celebrate Christmas who are you to tell them just because they are not a christian they are not entitled to?
Everyone to their own I say, yes I suspect there will be many people celebrating at christmas and im sure there will be many who are not christians but at least they are having a good time showing peace and goodwill. Its one time in the year where most families have a big gathering and I dont care who celebrates it, what religion they are as long as they have a good time.
shame you cant just let people enjoy it !!!
Its not like I'm holding a gun up to someone telling them to stop celebrating. I'm only making a point, and many people agreed with my point.
I don't know what non-christians/athiests celebrate on the 25th of December, but it certainly can't be 'Christmas' can it..... :rolleyes: