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Paedophile asylum seeker gets £50,000 payout for being detained
BillieTheBot
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6219608.stm
Not that I want to sound like a Sun editor, but that is an absolute fucking disgrace, and shows what an absolute state that this country's asylum system is in.
It shouldn't have taken two years to realise that this cunt (who should have been named and had his photo in the papers) shouldn't be allowed to stay, and it shouldn't have taken two years to realise that any torture he would face in Somalia would be completely deserved. Hell, he should have been mailed straight to the Somali torturers for what he did.
Every single penny of that money should be handed to his victims in compensation for their suffering, and Mr A should be put on the first plane to the Somali torture chambers. Hell, I'd break a few bones for them if they wanted.
As usual, its a dirty great sack of taxpayers money if you're a violent rapist, and absolutely fuck all if you're the victim of a violent rape.
As much as anything, this yet again allows the racists to imply that all asylum seekers are paedophile rapists who only seem to give a toss about human rights when they can smell a dirty great cash cow.
Not that I want to sound like a Sun editor, but that is an absolute fucking disgrace, and shows what an absolute state that this country's asylum system is in.
It shouldn't have taken two years to realise that this cunt (who should have been named and had his photo in the papers) shouldn't be allowed to stay, and it shouldn't have taken two years to realise that any torture he would face in Somalia would be completely deserved. Hell, he should have been mailed straight to the Somali torturers for what he did.
Every single penny of that money should be handed to his victims in compensation for their suffering, and Mr A should be put on the first plane to the Somali torture chambers. Hell, I'd break a few bones for them if they wanted.
As usual, its a dirty great sack of taxpayers money if you're a violent rapist, and absolutely fuck all if you're the victim of a violent rape.
As much as anything, this yet again allows the racists to imply that all asylum seekers are paedophile rapists who only seem to give a toss about human rights when they can smell a dirty great cash cow.
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The trick is to ensure such cases can never happen while protecting asylum seekers at large from backlashes and smearing campaigns.
Nothing reduces sympathy for asylum seekers in general more than these kind of absurd decisions. This kinda madness offends everyone.
You can't blame this on every other asylum seeker though,
I do agree that i really dont understand the logic behind this case mind.
Ok, where to start?
He didn't get £50,000. Classic hyperbole.
He'd served an 8 year sentence for his crime. Plenty of time for the immigration department to put a case together for his deportation. After those 8 years I consider his time served. Debt paid. The extra 20 months inprisonment is a failure that sits squarely on the shoulders of the immigration department and the judicial system.
To whomever it was that was condoning torture (and offering to inflict it personally) of this man, there's no place for your abhorent, reactionary and inhumane mentality in a civilised society. However, i do think there's a place for your style of writing (hate-mongering) at The Mail.
1. The figure isn't plucked from thin air, and the BBC tends to have pretty decent and neutral reporting. If they're proposing that figure, it will be accurate, it isn't the Mail reporting it.
2. Who cares? He shouldn't get a single penny. The HO shouldn't have to "prepare a case"- any criminal who is not from this country should be booted out without leave of appeal.
3. Go and tell the young girl that he deserves a huge payout for being kept in prison for brutally and violently raping her, when she gets nothing except years of depression and fear. "Inhumane" is violently raping a frightened young child at knifepoint. Funny how the judge hasn't taken that into account.
And yes, I am in favour of torturing rapists. Being kind and liberal isn't working- rapes up, convictions down- so perhaps a bit of mutilation might work a bit better.
2. I'm not arguing whether or not he should get any money. I happen to think he shouldn't be entitled to any.
Define "from this country"; are we talking about not born here? I'd argue that someone born in France, but who moved here aged 5 and committed an imprisonable offence at 35, is a product of our society and is our responsibility.
3. I didn’t say he deserved a payout. I’m also not suggesting that his crimes were anything other than barbaric, however, I am saying that torture is morally reprehensible. Moreover, I don’t agree with your analysis of liberal attitudes not working and mutilation being the other alternative. There’s a whole lot of ground in-between.
As Budda says, just because the crime in question is one you feel particularly strongly about, doesn’t mean that the law should be bent or ignored.
It's unacceptable to attack innocent people for no purpose.
I don't exactly think that the Government should bring back torture, but I do think that all violent criminals who are here as asylum seekers or adult immigrants should be deported immediately, regardless of the possibility of torture in their own country.
If this creature was sent back, as he should be, and tortured to death I would not shed a tear. Maybe that makes me sound awful, I don't care.
The current system- that of sympathy and understanding of the defendant- is not working- rape is up, convictions are down, and when people do get convicted they get pathetic sentences.
Perhaps the Government have broken their rules, but that shows that the rules should be changed- mandatory deportation for violent criminals who are adult immigrants or asylum seekers would do the trick.
We need to find an island, where we ship all of these people, where we only provide them with the basics to feed themselves and then it's down to survival of the fittest. Let them treat each other the way that they've treated the general public and then see how they like it. Either they'll sort out their own judicial system or they'll all end up killing each other!
Edited because my dodgy spelling made my sentences nonsensical.
Just a coincidence maybe?
But one violent person isn't the same as the next. Don't you think if someone regrets what they did and changes (even if they're in the minority) that they should have a chance of a good future?
Any asylum seeker or refugee who rapes a 13 year old girl should be deported. I don't care if they 'regret' it, that does not undo the harm done and I do not believe we have any moral obligation to give shelter to foreign rapists.
Good to see someone has their priorities right.
Well said
Torture is wrong and barbaric wherever it takes place but this man still shouldn't be allowed to stay in this country. He should be deported to Somalia, I don't agree with him being tortured over there because that is a crime just as bad as the crime he commited, but that isn't really our problem. He is a foreign immigrant who raped a 13 year old girl at knifepoint and has absolutely no right at all to stay in this country, whatever happens to him in Somalia, whether it is right or not, is his problem and the problem of the Somalian government.
I'd have no problems with deporting white British child rapists to Somalia to be tortured and executed...I'm into equal-opportunities retribution.
As that isn't practicable, though, I don't see why we should have to pay for and support someone who came to this country for safety from torture, and then inflicted a disgusting and terrifying violent rape on a young child. He should be deported without any rights to protection- he chose to remove himself from our country's protection when he held a knife to a young girl's throat and then violently raped her.
Fair enough, at least your up front about it. However I cant ever say that torture is either justified or moral.
Yes this bloke is a nasty piece of work, but no the government should not be able to break its own rules. If this case shows up how badly the rules on rape are working the solution is not to break them, but the revise and review them.
So you'd deport someone to torture and probable death for possession of cannabis?
But your post has made me re-think.
what have asylum seekers done wrong though, they arent the ones invesitgating these people....
I haven't said they've done anything wrong.
I'm just saying that for most people nothing reduces sympathy for asylum seekers in general more than these kind of absurd decisions...
Pretty simple.