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Sex with animals - why is it wrong?

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
I was reading The Decadent Handbook last night - I can't recommend it highly enough for those with a kinky side - and there was an extract from a novel in which a lobster gives a woman an orgasm on the Titanic. Anyway, it got me thinking, why is having sex with animals wrong? I've never done it and have no intention of doing it (though admittedly I did once go to the website but that was when I was young, new to the internet and researching the George Orwell book).

But seriously - why is it OK to eat a cow but not to pleasure it?? Just curious about what people think....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Lol i'm sorry but a lobster?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    because eating a cow and giving a cow a handjob are completely different things?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Because they wait until you're in the shower and sneak out. Then you try the number they gave you and it's for the local indian...and then it dawns on you...it was a cow! Cows don't have phones!

    So yeah, it's because cows are only after one thing. So if you see one in a club, be very wary. And always use protection, they probably have all sorts of STDs.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Because having sex with a different species is well, odd.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Because having sex with a different species is well, odd.

    But it does have a certain mystique.

    That's why creatures such as Mick Hucknall continue to get laid, despite being a character from Ren & Stimpy (or looking like one, anyway).



    See also: Chris De Burgh, Phil Collins, The Cast of Hollyoaks.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Because it's an unequal. An animal can't actually give it's consent.
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    Rachael wrote:
    Because it's an unequal. An animal can't actually give it's consent.

    Does it give it's consent when you eat it?

    Still, it's wrong because it is. If anybody feels sexually attracted to animals they've got a screw loose.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Rachael wrote:
    Because it's an unequal. An animal can't actually give it's consent.

    Took the words right out of my mouth...how do you tell if it is a bleat of pleasure, or protest? :confused:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well i have a few things to say about this...

    First off, there is a difference between eating an animal and pleasuring it. Using your logic of, if we can eat it, why can't we pleasure it, canabalism would be accepted, because we pleasure eachother, we can now eat eachother?

    Although I personally think it would be ok for a person to want to have sex with an animal as an experiment, it would be difficult i assume. First off, i think it is only possible for females to have sex with animals, or that is all i have heard of. Also, i have heard it said that dolphins are the only animal besides humans who have sex for pleasure, so the pleasing an animal part is out of the picture IF that is true.

    Eighter way, i think it would be an interesting thing to try for some people. I dont think it should be looked down upon, but there is no way you can get people to think it is normal.

    Some people think have any sex out of wedlock is wrong, so if it is an animal, then you will get all the crazy people on your case =P
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    Took the words right out of my mouth...how do you tell if it is a bleat of pleasure, or protest? :confused:

    Consent is really a non argument as we use animals for food, clothing, sport, research, labour etc... and do we ask consent for any those things? Do we fuck.

    It's a similar question to why is Incest wrong if you practice safe sex?


    Because it is!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I still think it's an entirely different issue. You have sex with an animal for pleasure. You kill an animal for meat for sustinence. But then you can go into an entire debate with every omnivore on this messageboard.
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    Rachael wrote:
    You kill an animal for meat for sustinence.

    Most of us don't need to though.

    Anyway if an animal could give consent would then be right?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Why are you asking?

    I don't see how that could ever happen unless Dr Doolittle decided he fancied a bit of hows your donkey.
    In the unlikely circumstance that an animal could say 'Do me now baby' then yes I suppose so. Wouldn't be a preferential choice for me and I probably wouldn't associate myself with anyone who did but I suppose thats just due to my own narrow-mindedness eh.
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    Rachael wrote:
    Why are you asking?

    Because I wondered if consent (or lack of it) was the only argument against it?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Skive wrote:
    Because I wondered if consent (or lack of it) was the only argument against it?

    I think so. I mean, I can think of arguements why I personally wouldn't do it but at this moment in time (3 minutes till 12 :impissed: ) that's the only moral high-ground I can take.

    I understand your arguement but I just don't think they are comparable, I don't think I'm a hypocrite for eating a burger and finding beastility wrong.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think its more gross than anything. I dont think its bad in the same way rape/child sex abuse is though, cos i cant imagine most animals would give that much of a shit about it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    So if eating meat is alright, does that mean performing fellatio is ok too?

    sorry couldn't resist ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Rachael wrote:
    Because it's an unequal. An animal can't actually give it's consent.
    Neither can cow when its calf is taken away for veil.

    The only animals wich have sex for pleasure other than the human being is the dolphin. Actually, a lot of bisexual behaviour occurs in dolphins.

    I don't see how sex with an animal is any worse than eating an animal... I mean if you're not hurting it then maybe it is less sick than eating it...

    Not that I have an desire to fuck a dog...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i think that plenty of animals have sex for pleasure, otherwise why would my dog try and hump my leg? Have you ever seen the monkeys at the zoo? They dont look like they hate it much.
    Ive seen some animal porn :yuck: where male animals did it to female humans, and you can hardly say they didnt consent.
    As I said, I think its completely vile, and id question the stability of someone that way inclined for sure, but apart from that...
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    Dirty lot!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i think that plenty of animals have sex for pleasure, otherwise why would my dog try and hump my leg? Have you ever seen the monkeys at the zoo? They dont look like they hate it much.
    Ive seen some animal porn :yuck: where male animals did it to female humans, and you can hardly say they didnt consent.
    As I said, I think its completely vile, and id question the stability of someone that way inclined for sure, but apart from that...
    Nope, I'm pretty sure dolphins are the only animals other than humans that have sex just for pleasure other than humans.

    If your do is humping your leg it's probably a domnance thing... A lot of animals make noise when they mate. Cats for example are very noisy.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    Infinite wrote:
    Because they wait until you're in the shower and sneak out. Then you try the number they gave you and it's for the local indian...and then it dawns on you...it was a cow! Cows don't have phones!

    So yeah, it's because cows are only after one thing. So if you see one in a club, be very wary. And always use protection, they probably have all sorts of STDs.

    :lol: :thumb:

    Well, a) they are a different species b) they can hardly say "Yeah, I give consent" c) look at what results - diseases, death, etc.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Really it's only "wrong" because as a society we deem it to be wrong. If it were about consent then all animals would be off the food menu.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Its wrong because they haven't given you there consent or dont know whats going on. In a way just like sex with children (I'm not comparing the two!).

    If riding a horse is what floats your boat, good luck with the counseling.

    We kill cows to eat to survive. Some people shag them for pleasure for themselves, which is taking advantage of something that cant consent.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bacon wrote:
    you train your dog to roll over, fetch stuff for you or herd sheep. how is this different from teaching your dog to lick your bone?

    :lol:

    I don't know HOW it's different... it just is! Wow, I am so skeeved out right now it's untrue :yuck:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    briggi wrote:
    Wow, I am so skeeved out right now it's untrue :yuck:

    Snap. And besides sex with animals isn't nice coz it tastes horrible :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There isn't anything morally wrong with having sex with an animal- if a horse didn't want a blowjob it'd let you know pretty damn sharpish, and you'd really know about it. So would a sheep, so would a cow, so would a dog.

    Consent is a stupid thing to argue because I doubt Daisy consents to be my tea either. And we don't need to eat Daisy for tea, otherwise there'd be no veggies in the world. Only recently has meat become a staple- until very recently it was a luxury.

    It is absolutely rank to pork a pig or a pony though, and anyone who does is seriously ill or getting a serious wedge of cash.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I understand what people are saying about the consent issue, but nobody consents to being killed...except that mad bloke in, maybe Germany, who consented to be killed and eaten by a cannibal :eek2: Consenting to sex and consenting to being killed and eaten are 2 very different things
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    They aren't different things at all, unless you're trying to claim that rape is worse than murder.
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