One year on...

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luke88 wrote:

Don't you think the poll the other day of muslim attitudes is concerning?

The one where 87% thought that the bombers weren't martyrs?

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bongbudda wrote:

Frankly I largely ignore polls, they can be set up in a way to get virtually any result you want.

You really can't win.

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Man Of Kent wrote:

The one where 87% thought that the bombers weren't martyrs?

No, where 13% thought they were... which accounts for over 300,000 if translated intothewhole population of muslims.

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luke88 wrote:

When the police seem to concentrate more on the muslim community it's branded racist... yet the bombers are muslim.

No, when they stop and search people purely based on their skin colour they are called racist.

Or when the Brazilian innocent man who was shot dead for no reason was identified as having "mongolian eyes" they are called racist.

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bongbudda wrote:

No, when they stop and search people purely based on their skin colour they are called racist.

Rubbish. Evidence?

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Main Entry: 1mar·tyr
Pronunciation: 'mär-t&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English, from Late Latin, from Greek martyr-, martys witness
1 : a person who voluntarily suffers death as the penalty of witnessing to and refusing to renounce a religion
2 : a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of principle
3 : VICTIM; especially : a great or constant sufferer <a martyr to asthma all his life -- A. J. Cronin>
- mar·tyr·i·za·tion /"mär-t&-r&-'zA-sh&n/ noun
- mar·tyr·ize /'mär-t&-"rIz/ transitive verb

I think the 7/7 bombers could be said to fit the 2nd definition of the word.

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Blagsta wrote:

Main Entry: 1mar·tyr
Pronunciation: 'mär-t&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English, from Late Latin, from Greek martyr-, martys witness
1 : a person who voluntarily suffers death as the penalty of witnessing to and refusing to renounce a religion
2 : a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of principle
3 : VICTIM; especially : a great or constant sufferer <a martyr to asthma all his life -- A. J. Cronin>
- mar·tyr·i·za·tion /"mär-t&-r&-'zA-sh&n/ noun
- mar·tyr·ize /'mär-t&-"rIz/ transitive verb

I think the 7/7 bombers could be said to fit the 2nd definition of the word.

Look at you... making excuses fortheir vile remarks.

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luke88 wrote:

Rubbish. Evidence?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/politics_show/4628072.stm

"you are nearly seven times more likely if you are black to be stopped and searched, and twice as likely if you are Asian, than a white person."

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luke88 wrote:

Look at you... making excuses fortheir vile remarks.

you really are a prat

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bongbudda wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/politics_show/4628072.stm

"you are nearly seven times more likely if you are black to be stopped and searched, and twice as likely if you are Asian, than a white person."

Because they are more likely to be the lastest wave of terrorists.

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luke88 wrote:

Because they are more likely to be the lastest wave of terrorists.

What all people with brown skin?

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luke88 wrote:

Because they are more likely to be the lastest wave of terrorists.

Are there over twice as many black muslims as Asian ones?

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luke88 wrote:

No, where 13% thought they were...

You can do maths, I presume?

Look at you... making excuses fortheir vile remarks.

I don't think there is a single excuse there at all. He's pointng out the definition of "martyr" for you, as you don't seem to understand the word.

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luke you've turned this thread into a bad joke, all your arguments have been blown to pieces but you keep on digging a hole........it's obvious to everyone else so you might as well just admit it, you don't have a clue what you're talking about and your head is filled with tabloid bullshit.....

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Man Of Kent wrote:

You can do maths, I presume?

I don't think there is a single excuse there at all. He's pointng out the definition of "martyr" for you, as you don't seem to understand the word.

lol looks like his maths isn't much better than his english.......i'm sorry for getting personal it's just real tiresome to listen to the same drivel over and over, bring back klintock and they can have their own forum over in the corner.....

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bongbudda wrote:

Do you think anything has changed for the better or worse?

Outside of London? Not really.

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Senor Miguel wrote:

luke you've turned this thread into a bad joke, all your arguments have been blown to pieces but you keep on digging a hole........it's obvious to everyone else so you might as well just admit it, you don't have a clue what you're talking about and your head is filled with tabloid bullshit.....

No it is not.

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so explain exactly how getting rid of multiculturalism is the key to fighting terrorism, i can't wait to hear this.......and stop dodging questions if you don't want to be accused of trolling.

ETA: obviously a troll then.