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'ths developments has boosted hopes the violence will come to an end'
if some group were to assasinate our pm, as nice as it maybe to see blair out of office, its murder which is downright wrong and illegitamate way of doing things, and guess what, we'd replace him with someone more aggressive most probably thus not stopping the violence
violence only stops violence when you kill every last 1 of the opposite side whose willing to die
The UK and US forces are responsible for the kidnappings and killings in Iraq of aid workers.
I seriously think you need to answer that question if you want to be taken seriously as someone who is interested in being involved in discussion or debate.
Feel free to use as many words as possible afterwards, but if you could start the reply with either yes or no it'd help this thread move forward.
The psy op value of these acts - easily and anonymously attributed to those fighting continued coalition presence (aka "the enemy", "the insurgents" and of course "the terrorists" interchangeably to fit the whim of the "official spokesperson" of the moment) - and the political capital sought by our military establishments in securing public support for a continued presence and exercise of force in the region, are a well established tactic. The OSP and DIA in the US were established most specifically to design such propagandistic media smokescreens (not to mention a legacy of such false flag initiatives by the CIA and its partner agencies themselves around the globe).
I do appreciate once again your comments concerning derision, but would remind you that I respond in the tone with which I addressed. If my detractors wish simple debate, let them present their case without the intellectually feeble "conspiracy theory" dodging of documented facts.
You could win the war on Iraqi insurgents
Bin laden next boys!
The number of attacks per day upon occupation forces itself is grossly underreported.
Dream on Luke, you are chasing phantoms.
Try having the guts to stand up against documented expansionistic warfare before daring to call anyone a wimp. Such silly comments only emphasize how surface your understanding of the situation truly is.
I have chosen to support this war on terror because I don't want Islamic terrorism or any other kind of terrorism cripling the world. I believe a strong and UNITED front against this ideology will combat it, just like the facists in the 30's and 40's.
Shake off your youthful naivete and open your eyes to reality for a change.
Just put it this way, I'd rather live in this country, the US or western europe any day before any islamic, african or asian country!
Couple the first with a stock in trade media indoctrinated soundbite about where you'd prefer to live (which offers you even less safety from the incrementally unfolding agenda of the real terrorists in power today) and once again you show yourself wanting on any intellectual level.
Thanks for playing dear boy, now back to tabloids you go!
Don't want to sound like I'm censoring how you debate but I think it'd be best if you don't call people 'boy'
cheers
Terrorism has got one purpose. TO incite fear and terror into people.
What the UK and US governments might or might not be doing ( and I can't confirm any of that without unbiased and verified evdience), is not terrorism. You can call it systematic reconstruction of countries or whatever you want but not terrorism. I sometimes think that most of the commanders in the US and UK ranks have the Oaedipus complex!!
Again terrorism is visible, what the US and UK governments might be doing is not visible.
It pisses me off something big when people use the term Islamic Terrorism!!
The people that are the terrorists are Islamic fundamentalists and please do not do what the Media does and single out every Muslim as a terrorist or a potential terrorist. Zarqawi was a fundamentalist and even though his death won't mean much in real terms, it's a token killing.
Why is that?
I meant their resgimes.
you make yourself sound like an older person, hence, as you imply, you ave more expereinced regarding media, govt, etc, and see the truth. and then you get so frustrated when someone, as you impy, much younger than you havent got to the point, as you imply, of your intelligence or whatever. you bully youre views into those whom you think is younger than you. and when they behave their age, you reply in the same manner. youre a worm that would revert to turd when faced by a turd. and then you would blame the other person that you reverted into a turd.
youre really just a coward to be honest.
You must not know any muslim people then. I know quite a few. Most of the ones I know are sick of having to justify themselves, they see it as a pointless exercize because of mostly the media and the way they are portrayed.
So what if the terrorists use Islam to justify themselves? Their version of the Quran is a perverted one and an extreme one. Does that mean that Islam is bad. No, it doesn't.
I'll put that down to lack of research.
There are some perfectly good regimes in Asia and Africa. Also, not all Asian countries are Islamic.
Look at the 7/7 attacks... not much condeming there..... the Mohammah pictures... you had them on the streets chanting at something which didn't even happen in this country and recently we had yet more muslims complaining that our police are trying to protect everyone against terrorism then we had a RESPECT councillor suggesting muslims don't go to the police over terroism.
Your going to get banned if you choose to ignore advice on not using personal insults.
back to the thread...
i have a feeling that there will be a backlash for the killing of zarqawi. perhaps there could be a retaliation in the west?
does anyone else thinks this or aint zarqawi that significant of a figure?
i know he and his group is just one of many, but for a long time he personified the insurgency.
Not that all Muslims condemn the attacks, but the the overwhelming majority seem to? Presumably you don't believe all Irish people back the Real IRA?
whatever sirdee sir sir sir
In point of fact, however, I have implied nothing but stated quite plainly, and with far more substantive evidentiary material than any of my intellectually non-critical detractors so far, the gullibility of certain posters here.
Your little tirade of insults cannot be so redeemed for its utter lack of any relation to the actual issue under debate.
Thanks for playing, next contestant please!
As for you Luke, its clear that you have not advanced the slightest in intellectual capacity since your previous incarnation on these boards. I remember well what a mockery you made of yourself then as well. Some things never change.