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Is there a concerted media effort to destroy Prescott?

It certainly seems that way to me. The bile in the last few days has simply been extraordinary. I honestly can't think of anyone else who has been treated in such way. Not Blair, not Ken Livingstone, not even Galloway.

The Scum certainly has it in for him, and has done so for many, many years. They were demanding (or rather, Rupert Murdoch was) that he should go well before any of this broke. Apparently he's 'Old Labour' and we can't have that in the right wing Labour government of Tony Blair.

The Mail and others have joyfully joined in as well. And they will probably get him out if such savagery continues.

Regardless of whether he represents good value for money, am I the only one who fails to get so worked out about Prescott having 1 afternoon off to play crocket as the tabloids have?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    course there is, they need a nice bandwagon to jump on when they're not complaining about immigration, or using their front pages to share important facts with the world, like the fact that britney and kevin are splitting up :eek:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't get it either. Bloke does leisurely activity on a Sunday shocker! I have absolutely no idea whats brought this on. Out of the cabinet lot Prescott seems like one of most 'normal' ones in there in your sort of average bloke sort of way.
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    Of course there is.

    Poor chap. Sure, he screwed up. Lets get over it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Renzo wrote:
    Bloke does leisurely activity on a Sunday shocker!
    Or even Thursday.

    It's hardly surprising that the right wing press are taking every opportunity to discredit him - he is all that is left in government of Old Labour, apparently a uniting force in the parliamentary party. With him forced out in a scandal, it would do immense harm to the government, and Gordon Brown would be left with a divided party. It's all familiar territory if you cast your mind back to the mid 90s and the Major years.

    However, to borrow Renzo's word, I do think Prescott is extremely average. He apparently works 16 hour days, 7 days a week. Doing what exactly? He kept his enormous salary and perks in the reshuffle but seems to have little to do save "chair meetings". Perhaps his public persona is different from his professional one, but I wouldn't trust him to run a government department.

    Press plot or not, he's providing plenty of ammunition himself.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I haven't actually worked out what the latest kerfuffle is about, someone want to tell me?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote:
    I haven't actually worked out what the latest kerfuffle is about, someone want to tell me?

    Me neither, to be honest.

    I've felt a niggling kind of pity for Prescott for a while now. Of course, he's brought some of it upon himself but a lot of the criticism that he does face seems to be incredibly vitriolic and over things I can imagine anyone else getting away with, so to speak. He's such a laughing stock now that I get the feeling they use him as a total scapegoat to deflect attention away from other issues. Proverbial lamb to the slaughter, so to speak.

    Not that I actually like him or anything /caveat :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    He is a fat old pig who has no job. He is useless... what the hell does he do? Chair Committees? Wow does that deserve an excess of 600k a year?

    Blair is keeping him so there is no leadership contest as the deputy and the PM are closely related. Now Blair doesn't want this.

    Plus Prescott is a hypocrite lying cheating scum bag. Plus he is hardly left wing nor represents the left of Labour. He is quite right wing but pretends to represent Unions and the left.

    Labour would be better off with such a scum bag.

    IU support The Sun... Mail etc campaign to oust the swine bag!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm not surprised you do... you appear to repeat the Scum's editorials to the letter.

    Don't believe everything you read in the tabloids.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The media are like sharks - they smell blood and just get into a feeding frenzy. Plus the DPM has never made any attempt to get on with journos and has precious few allies in the fourth estate.

    Also lets not make to much of Prescott being 'Old' Labour. He may eat peas with his knife and speak with a Northern accent, but he's fully signed up to the 'project' and New Labour. He's one of Blair's strongest allies - one of the reasons why Blair is loath to let him go.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    NQA wrote:
    Also lets not make to much of Prescott being 'Old' Labour. He may eat peas with his knife and speak with a Northern accent, but he's fully signed up to the 'project' and New Labour. He's one of Blair's strongest allies - one of the reasons why Blair is loath to let him go.
    Yes you are quite right about that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Prescott is the laughing stock of new labour. Criticised the Toires like mad in the 90's.. then he goes cheating on is wife.. hyprocisy as it's best.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think telling thing to happen to Prescot is the aftermath of when he hit that man. Any other person in politics wouldn't have gotten away with it, but people just shrugged and said 'oh well, he's a bruiser, what are you going to do?'.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    Prescott is the laughing stock of new labour. Criticised the Toires like mad in the 90's.. then he goes cheating on is wife.. hyprocisy as it's best.
    Not as hypocrite as the countless Tories who made fun of him for having two cars, when they themselves have two, three or even four luxury houses.

    There are far worse people than Prescott in Labour that don't even get 10% of the stick he gets.

    Mandelson and Blunkett have done far more serious things. But I guess they're not seen as old Labour (even though Prescott isn't really old Labour either) and more to the point, they are not fat.

    Because a lot of it comes down to that. Prescott is fat and therefore fun to be made of. Always has been.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It is no different to what happened to Torrie ministers when they were in government.

    Is it even worth talking about? Just because he is a Labour MP doesnt make a difference after all.


    As for Prescott been made fun of. He deserves it. He did it to opposition ministers so its Karma in action.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There is one major difference between the Tories and Prescott: it was the former who were at the time bothering everyone about 'back to basics' morality and the wrongs of adultery.

    That was hypocrisy, and deserving of a resignation.

    Otherwise, it really is nobody's business whether politicians cheat on their partners or who they sleep with.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I hope they give the cunt a heart attack.

    Jabba is all about champagne socialism at its worst, and any campaign to get that fat lump of shit out of office and into a coffin is a campaign I will fully and vocally support.

    It earns more in a year than I earn in a decade, and what do we get from it? We get to see it pissing about playing croquet when it should be at work, we get it abusing its free house to fuck the secretary in every which way possible, we get to see it driving 100 yards to a conference- even Jabba should have been able to walk that- and in order to justify its grotesque salary, we get to see it visiting some drug addicts.

    Absolute bargain. Time for Jabba to go.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    He is a hypocrit too Aladdin, he is the face and voice and representative of his department which wrote all the rules about appropriate work place behaviour for ministers, which he went on to break after dictating these rules to his peers in Government.

    He is exactly the same as the Torries.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    Otherwise, it really is nobody's business whether politicians cheat on their partners or who they sleep with.

    And the fact that he did so during office hours in a flat that the tax payer pays for, thats none of our business either?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The only business of our concern is that he wasted 'company time' on activities that were not related to his job.

    But so long as we are prepared to forgive an MP who is seen popping in the local pub for a quick half for half an hour we should forgive Prescott. What they were doing doing that time is not relevant- the only relevant issue is the waste of company time.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Is there also an issue of trust? If he's willing to deceive his wife, he probably wouldn't think twice about deceiving the rest of us. Not to mention the morality issue of having an adulterer as DPM. It's not an honourable thing to do, adultery.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kentish wrote:
    Is there also an issue of trust? If he's willing to deceive his wife, he probably wouldn't think twice about deceiving the rest of us. Not to mention the morality issue of having an adulterer as DPM. It's not an honourable thing to do, adultery.

    Don't you think that somewhere there should be a line drawn between personal and political life though? I don't know much about Prescott but if I were to become a political figure then I could easily be labelled with a whole bunch of things based on past and current actions. I guess i just think it's a little harsh to judge a man's ability to do his job based on his personal life. I know the comparison isn't exact, but I think Paddy Ashdown was pretty hard done by as well. I really didn't see the issue with him liking a couple of bottles of wine a night; hell I frequently drink that after a hard day at work. IMO he still talked a lot more sense than most other people in parliament.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Don't you think that somewhere there should be a line drawn between personal and political life though?
    Yeah I take the point, and don't really have much interest in his personal affairs. If he was able to convince me that he was doing a decent job in government, and could string together a coherent sentence, I probably wouldn't care about his sexual exploits.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kentish wrote:
    Is there also an issue of trust? If he's willing to deceive his wife, he probably wouldn't think twice about deceiving the rest of us. Not to mention the morality issue of having an adulterer as DPM. It's not an honourable thing to do, adultery.
    That's a valid question and I guess it holds true with some voters. I'm not bothered in the slightest myself.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jabba is all about champagne socialism at its worst, and any campaign to get that fat lump of shit out of office and into a coffin is a campaign I will fully and vocally support.

    :lol: Abso-fucking-lutely.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I thought the point wasn't that he was playing croquet, which is still acceptable I think, but that he was playing croquet on the lawn of his enormous grace and favour country mansion, despite having been stripped of most of his role in government.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    That's a valid question and I guess it holds true with some voters. I'm not bothered in the slightest myself.

    Nah, but if he was wearing a blue rosette you'd be pissing yourself with excitement at nailing a "hypocrite".
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    Nah, but if he was wearing a blue rosette you'd be pissing yourself with excitement at nailing a "hypocrite".
    If he had been in the Tory cabinet during the Back to Basics campaign, yes of course I would.

    Why? Wouldn't you?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    If he had been in the Tory cabinet during the Back to Basics campaign, yes of course I would.

    Why? Wouldn't you?

    So when the Tory Ministers were resigning, do you remember who was one of the most vocal of their opponents?

    I'll give you a clue, the thread is about him.

    He should go, partly because he has lost trust, partly because he did it during working hours, partly because he is an embarassment to the Govt. In fact I think that the only thing stopping Blair from sacking him, is the thought that Tony would be next on the hit list and the media focus is elsewhere at the moment...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    So when the Tory Ministers were resigning, do you remember who was one of the most vocal of their opponents?

    I'll give you a clue, the thread is about him.
    But was he criticising simply that they had cheated on their spouses, or that they had cheated while they had been preaching completely the opposite?

    If the latter if the case, and since Prescott hasn't to my knowledge embarked in any 'back to basics' morality botherings, he is entitled to have criticised those tories, and he is not a hypocrite for having cheated himself.

    Let me make it clear that the man has countless faults and that I'm not in the business of defending him for the sake of it. But when it comes to his extra marital affair, there is nothing 'hypocritical' about it whatsoever- unless he actually campaigned for family values and morality like the tories did.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I hope there is an attempt to force John Prescott out of his non-job. What is the point of this man? He doesn't do anything in the government since he lost his Deputy Prime Minister's fiefdom. It's high time the man retired - he can spend all the time he likes playing croquet then...
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