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stopped and searched under the terrorism act

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sure, and then they will assume the right to shoot you dead on the spot.

    Psycopathy and presumed authority are a bad combination.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If they didn't search people then what security would there be? You can't have it both ways.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If they didn't search people then what security would there be? You can't have it both ways.
    Oh, come off it.

    These searches have nothing to do with catching terrorists and "improving security".
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think its good they are still taking it all seriously
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    And just how many suspected terrorist acts do you think these searches have prevented? I'm guessing zero.


    Beats doing nothing
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Just because (your guess) that it hasn't stopped one whos to say it won't in the future?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Tweety wrote:
    I think its good they are still taking it all seriously

    Taking what seriously?

    Harrassing and haranguing innocent people? Destroying every democratic freedom we have? Murdering thousands of people for personal economic gain?

    Do you seriously think Bliar gives a fuck who gets blown up, so long as it ain't him?

    Stop-and-search is all about making the masses obedient, it has nothing to do with catching criminals. ID cards have nothing to do with making us safer, and everything to do with making it impossible to not obey the people in power now.

    Anyone who thinks the police are doing something useful in stopping random people are naive fools.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    Anyone who thinks the police are doing something useful in stopping random people are naive fools.

    In your opinion maybe. I would rather they at least tried than did nothing.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'd be outraged, but then I do have an extremely healthy sense of outrage which not everybody has cultivated.

    It almost beggars belief that random searches have now become something we are to expect, go along meekly and be fine with because they MAY POSSIBLY POTENTIALLY ONE DAY stop a attack that may or may not be a terrorist attack, or rather someone reaching into their jacket pocket for a banana. If they tried to stop me I'm sure I would object loudly, though maybe I'll have to reconsider since I'm not all that keen on being shot to death.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    But can't you see the point Kermit is trying to make?

    They're not trying to prevent terrorist attacks, because they know it's impossible. What they're trying to do is enforce mass obedience and conformity with their stupid rules, and encourage us all to believe we're permanently under attack so we're whipped up into a state of perpetual fear. And it all starts with tiny little inconveniences, like missing your train and having to empty out your bag for no good reason.


    Yes i see his point but i don't see it like that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    Anyone who thinks the police are doing something useful in stopping random people are naive fools.

    Absolutely.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Tweety wrote:
    I would rather they at least tried than did nothing.

    They're doing nothing, don't you get it? They're doing fuck all to prevent terrorism. They're doing fuck all to prevent even low-level crime.

    They're doing everything they can to keep tabs on you- what you wear, what you carry, where you go, what you eat and drink. They're doing everything they can to make sure they have all your details, up to and including DNA details. They're deliberately targeting normal people because normal people will do what they're told. Obedient sheeple are so much easier to control.

    Can you seriously put your hand on your heart and say that they're doing this to "prevent terrorism". Can you really say that?

    If you can I fear for this country. Policemen are the border collies of society, herding all us sheeple into the pen where we won't be any bother and we can be put through the abbatoir when the time is right.

    And will we stand up against it? No. They might shoot us. The suicide bomber doesn't care if he gets shot, does he?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    how long before whole rows of houses are turned over?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    innocent

    Aren't they guilty until proven otherwise these days? Urrgh.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aren't they guilty until proven otherwise these days? Urrgh.

    Nah, that's only if you're black.

    They don't care if the rest of us are innocent or guilty, so long as we put up with their controlling shit because they're "doing something" to "protect" us.

    If Bliar gave a fuck about our safety would he have started world war three?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Like it or not there are fundamentalist Muslim terrorists out there who want to kill normal people – just going about their ordinary everyday business. And they pose a danger to all of us, whatever the fascist BNP claim about British Muslims supporting terrorists lets remember that the terrorists on 7/7 targeted Edgware Road...Everybody is in this together.

    There admittedly isn’t much logic in stopping elderly women and rifling through their handbags but random searches are absolutely necessary. A high police presence and a public perception that random searches can happen is one way of fighting terrorism.

    Scarlettleeds – I assume you would object to being searched before getting on an aeroplane? After all you’re not a terrorist and you’re hardly going to take a handgun on to a plane so any search is an infringement of civil liberties...Yawn. In the real world a little bit of inconvenience is a small price to pay for safety and better protection.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you having nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Like it or not there are fundamentalist Muslim terrorists out there who want to kill normal people – just going about their ordinary everyday business. And they pose a danger to all of us, whatever the fascist BNP claim about British Muslims supporting terrorists lets remember that the terrorists on 7/7 targeted Edgware Road...Everybody is in this together.

    Like it or not they want to because of the actions of the same people who now want to "protect" us. The reason the governments in the US and UK (hah!) are bothered about this is they can see the end of their predations if they can be blown to shit themselves everytime they decide to bomb some poor foreign neighbourhood.

    You CANNOT stop suicide bombers. So why take all the freedoms that are supposedly protected if all you want to do is protect those freedoms?
    Scarlettleeds – I assume you would object to being searched before getting on an aeroplane? After all you’re not a terrorist and you’re hardly going to take a handgun on to a plane so any search is an infringement of civil liberties...Yawn. In the real world a little bit of inconvenience is a small price to pay for safety and better protection.

    Bollocks.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Although clearly the government, or Charles Clarke is incapable of protecting us from the terrorist threat. Not really surprising, 7/7 displayed that national security is hardly Labour's strong point.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Theres no nation and theres no security.

    Certainly not from arming a bunch of unaccountable psychopaths and setting them loose on the streets.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    First of all, if the police are stopping and searching people to catch terrorists, then this is seriously fucked up. Scarlette is right, i mean, they will just blwo themselves and cops up then and there. There is no point to stop and search to prevent terroris. It is just pointless.

    If it is to stop drug dealers, as in arrest someone with drugs on them, or catch a person who looks suspicious such as they may be concealing a gun or a knife or something. Then it is an arguable measure, though since we have had 3 police shootings recently resulting from stop and searches, they probably are pointless as the person concealing a weapon will just use it.

    Yes, stop and search is pointless. Besides, i wouldnt want anyone find me carrying home a stack of porn dvds. But i will probably be ok, i am a white, middle class, smartly dressed male with an flawless calming accent, what do i have to worry about...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In the forseeable future (2 or 3 years) the train stations and subways will have scanners to detect explosives that people may be carrying. The technology is already there, they are just refining it for speed and portability. Searches are obviously much less effective than scanning for explosives, so they probably won't do it forever.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Like it or not there are fundamentalist Muslim terrorists out there who want to kill normal people – just going about their ordinary everyday business.

    :lol: he's behind you!! :eek:
    Kermit wrote:
    If you can I fear for this country. Policemen are the border collies of society, herding all us sheeple into the pen where we won't be any bother and we can be put through the abbatoir when the time is right.

    Careful you're starting to sound like Clan......it's all one big conspiracy theory right?
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    These searches are useless. IF he WAS a Terrorist, and hte cops asked him to open his bag... he presses the detenator and BOOM!
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