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Brutal gangland murderers convicted

BillieTheBotBillieTheBot Posts: 8,721 Bot
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Story.

Why?

What is it that is attracting so many black people to gangs like this? And making them commit acts like this?

It isn't the first time any of them have done this sort of thing.

It sure as hell isn't that they're black, but there must be something.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    one of them was in immigant given leave to say till 18 (13 at the time) of which he never reapplied for indefinate leave to stay

    that alone makes me think the express and the mail are going to have another asylum bashing immigrant headline in the papers tomorrow morning
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's hard to argue with them sometimes.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i blame the plastic dishonest greedy bullshit warring world we have created.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MrG wrote:
    that alone makes me think the express and the mail are going to have another asylum bashing immigrant headline in the papers tomorrow morning
    It's not always easy to argue against the Mail on this. Unemployed drug-dealing immigrants... imagine the headlines you can make out of a story like that...

    As for the murderers, good riddance. I hope they rot to death in jail. And I hope our government hangs its head in shame. Its stupid probation policies are responsible for this. Do away with probation, do away with early release... make people serve their full sentences instead of forcing judges to lie every time they pass sentence. And how about building some more prisons, you stupid champagne socialists?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    It's not always easy to argue against the Mail on this. Unemployed drug-dealing immigrants... imagine the headlines you can make out of a story like that...
    im personally more concerned about the people who were born and raised in this country, who have a guaranteed right to be here, who still do things like this, shouldnt people be more worried about them
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MrG wrote:
    im personally more concerned about the people who were born and raised in this country, who have a guaranteed right to be here, who still do things like this, shouldnt people be more worried about them
    I'm willing to take a bet that, out of these murderers, most of them will never have seen their father. Most will probably have no respect for authority, for the rules, for the law. That is one reason they are joining these groups in their droves. Breakdown of society, breakdown of the nuclear family, the refusal to police drug laws properly, the refusal by liberals to build more prisons... all this is responsible for the nightmare we face today.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Looks simple enough to me.

    Guy is working in an illegal profesion with high profits and lots of risk.

    He gets made a mug of, and his "reputation" for competence (in the case of people in this industry this means the ability to not get ripped off, be feared etc) nosedives.

    He decides to get it back through horrific torture of the person who he believes has made a fool of him.

    Evil as fuck, but makes sense from his point of view. The best thing to stop it happening again would be to remove all the profit from drugs.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm willing to take a bet that, out of these murderers, most of them will never have seen their father. Most will probably have no respect for authority, for the rules, for the law. That is one reason they are joining these groups in their droves. Breakdown of society, breakdown of the nuclear family, the refusal to police drug laws properly, the refusal by liberals to build more prisons... all this is responsible for the nightmare we face today.

    Prison does fuck all. If it was gonna work it would have done by now.

    What rules? What law? If you think I am crazy for saying that there is no law, you should try growing up with people who live it in technicolor.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MrG wrote:
    one of them was in immigant given leave to say till 18 (13 at the time) of which he never reapplied for indefinate leave to stay

    that alone makes me think the express and the mail are going to have another asylum bashing immigrant headline in the papers tomorrow morning
    Then somebody should point out to them that the other 5 weren't immigrants given leave to stay, or that the immense majority of crime in this country is created by natives not by immigrants, and that therefore we look forward to the Mail and Express all British people be kicked out of Britain.

    Simple. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    klintock wrote:
    Prison does fuck all. If it was gonna work it would have done by now.
    No, prison isn't working. Why? Because staff are over-worked, and prisons are over-crowded. Build more prisons. They work! In the 1980s, they started a prison-building programme in parts of the USA to deal with the sky-high crime rate. Crime fell sharply and now, some prisons are empty and no longer needed, so they can be sold off to any company that wants them. "Prison works", Michael Howard says - and I'm inclined to agree. Crime fell whilst he was Home Secretary, whilst under squidgy liberals like Jack Straw and Charles Clarke, crime is rocketing, because they don't genuinely believe in prisons.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    I'm willing to take a bet that, out of these murderers, most of them will never have seen their father. Most will probably have no respect for the law. That is one reason they are joining these groups in their droves. Breakdown of society, breakdown of the nuclear family, the refusal to police drug laws properly, the refusal by liberals to build more prisons... all this is responsible for the nightmare we face today.
    :shocking:
    i know many business people like this!!!!!!!!!!

    how the hell do expect to police the drug laws?
    seriously.
    up to ten billion a quid a year spent on illegas in the uk alone.
    politicians doctors lawyers most of the city of london ...your dentist your mechanic and ...ME ...how the hell do you thoink the impossible can be done ...and by who?

    as for your comments about building more and more and more ...jails ...prisons ...camps ...whatever you wish to call them ...to lock up your own people ...defies fucking belief! :shocking:



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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    SG ...you are turnoing into an extremist.
    an extremist who believes a large number of the members of these boards ...should have new prisons built to house them!
    don't you see anything wrong with that view?
    i find it quite scary.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    I'm willing to take a bet that, out of these murderers, most of them will never have seen their father. Most will probably have no respect for authority, for the rules, for the law. That is one reason they are joining these groups in their droves. Breakdown of society, breakdown of the nuclear family, the refusal to police drug laws properly, the refusal by liberals to build more prisons... all this is responsible for the nightmare we face today.

    erm what about those who do know their fathers, are well respected within the communty, and are known to be good people

    thats a pretty good description of the london bombers from friends and family
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    morrocan roll wrote:
    SG ...you are turning into an extremist. an extremist who believes a large number of the members of these boards ... should have new prisons built to house them! don't you see anything wrong with that view? i find it quite scary.
    Law-breaking must be punished, that's my view. But this isn't about board members. This is about the gangland murderers.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Law-breaking must be punished, that's my view.
    #
    Eh? Why?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    . But this isn't about board members. .
    your attitude toward those on these boards who have just snorted or smoked something whilst replying to you ... suggests to me that my comments were not out of place ...it's called conversation.
    should i be thrown into jail for having a smoke right now?
    locked up with them murderers ...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Law-breaking must be punished, that's my view.

    So when this new nasty law (legistlative reform) happens, and ministers can make even more draconian laws, you'll advocate people being punished for breaking them, just because of what some crackpot politician thinks is good at the time?

    Of course police should follow the law, but the drugs laws are rather stupid.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Law-breaking must be punished, that's my view. But this isn't about board members. This is about the gangland murderers.

    so its wrong for ministers to create draconian law, but ok to apply it?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MrG wrote:
    so its wrong for ministers to create draconian law, but ok to apply it?
    What are you talking about? What draconian law?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    What are you talking about? What draconian law?
    seriously mate ...what medication are you on?
    i ask because ...you start rants that do have an element of truth to them ...but always blatantly obvious ones like ...politicians earn more than milkmen!

    the drugs and prisons rants ...all with no back up ...no basis in reality.
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    morrocan roll wrote:
    i blame the plastic dishonest greedy bullshit warring world we have created.

    Yes.... when they immigrate here... they often cannot get jobs for ages. As well, people don't want to employ them because they are foreign, and have - no references!

    So they probably think - I can do off the books slave work for a poor wage - or be a criminal! And maybe make more money.

    Also... the whole culture divide thing. And yes, they way of the world currently. I can only see change coming soon - but wether it is for better or worse - is what we chose. I only hope we can all chose wisely! And not jut blame the convienient foreign scape goat once more. It's easy to do it - but the longer we do, the longer the world will be this fucked up!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I happen to know that at least 2 of people convicted were at an EBD school (school for emotionally and behaviourially disturbed children) in south London.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teh_Gerbil wrote:
    Yes.... when they immigrate here... they often cannot get jobs for ages. As well, people don't want to employ them because they are foreign, and have - no references!

    So they probably think - I can do off the books slave work for a poor wage - or be a criminal! And maybe make more money.

    Also... the whole culture divide thing. And yes, they way of the world currently. I can only see change coming soon - but wether it is for better or worse - is what we chose. I only hope we can all chose wisely! And not jut blame the convienient foreign scape goat once more. It's easy to do it - but the longer we do, the longer the world will be this fucked up!
    is your belief that we can actualy chose ...still alive ...still strong?
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    morrocan roll wrote:
    is your belief that we can actualy chose ...still alive ...still strong?

    We can. If people awaken adn realise and stop following the mass media... they'll see. Then we can, then we have the power.

    We only have to wonder how long before people stop eating this force fed crap, how long until they see the monster they have let loose. Hopefully soon.

    A government is nothing if its people chose to rebel.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teh_Gerbil wrote:
    We can. If people awaken adn realise and stop following the mass media... they'll see. Then we can, then we have the power.

    We only have to wonder how long before people stop eating this force fed crap, how long until they see the monster they have let loose. Hopefully soon.

    A government is nothing if its people chose to rebel.
    the problem i see is that the people who have the power ...the choice ...are to comfortable and busy.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    the problem i see is that the people who have the power ...the choice ...are to comfortable and busy.

    yup. It'll only be once the TV goes out and the beer runs dry that they will emerge blinking into the halflight and wonder where the fuck the world went.
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    klintock wrote:
    yup. It'll only be once the TV goes out and the beer runs dry that they will emerge blinking into the halflight and wonder where the fuck the world went.

    That is what we can but hope for!

    And as I see it... it gets more likley as you look into whats going on, beneath the surface. Our governments in the west.. fail us more and more. More people get disillusioned, and look elsewhere...

    And people wait for them, with new and different ideas.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teh_Gerbil wrote:
    We can. If people awaken adn realise and stop following the mass media... they'll see.
    Stop following the mass media? And how are we meant to do that? Try ignoring every media outlet for 24 hours - there's so many of them, it's impossible. And in any case, where would we get our P&D stories if not from the mass media?
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Stop following the mass media? And how are we meant to do that? Try ignoring every media outlet for 24 hours - there's so many of them, it's impossible. And in any case, where would we get our P&D stories if not from the mass media?

    Yes... it doesn't mean you have to eat the spin. You can when using a source glean out that little nugget of truth - the idea of the story... and lose the spin and lies that surround it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    Story.

    Why?

    What is it that is attracting so many black people to gangs like this? And making them commit acts like this?

    It isn't the first time any of them have done this sort of thing.

    It sure as hell isn't that they're black, but there must be something.

    There is a big problem with nigga gangsta culture but this isn't an example of it. Just a bunch of sick degenerate fucks who happen to be black.
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