Met police chief bugs IPCC

BillieTheBot

Just when you thought London's police chief couldnt get any wierder and more unpleasant he turns Nixon and has been taping conversations with people without their knowledge.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4801032.stm

Former Member

Seems like a sensible thing to do when dealing with that nest of vipers.
Is this saying that britains top policeman doesn't trust britain's top lawyer?

I wonder why not? :rolleyes:

Former Member

Echelon doesn`t appear to concern many,but this one call has received attention.Odd

Former Member

Bet's Blair won't last his full term - he doesn't seem to be able to walk past a hole without putting his foot in it.

I've no problem with important phone-calls being recorded - I've done it myself. But its common courtesy to let the person at the other end know that you're recording.

Former Member

I thought it was law, which is why answering machines bleep when they start recording...

Former Member

No, you only need permission if you are going to give the tapes to a third party. Obviously if Blair was playing these tapes to others in his office then he has broken civil (not criminal) law.

Former Member

I thought companies at least had the obligation to warn you in advance- hence practically every single institution you phone, from your bank to your gas supplier, warns you in advanced the conversation might be recorded for training purproses.

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I thought companies at least had the obligation to warn you in advance- hence practically every single institution you phone, from your bank to your gas supplier, warns you in advanced the conversation might be recorded for training purproses.

Asserting copyright is always a fun thing to do when they say that.

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Aladdin wrote:

I thought companies at least had the obligation to warn you in advance- hence practically every single institution you phone, from your bank to your gas supplier, warns you in advanced the conversation might be recorded for training purproses.

That's because they are going to play the tapes to a third party, if Blair was keeping the tapes for his and only his use then he didnt legally have to warn them.

Former Member

Heh, I've done that a couple of times myself. Always good to have someones exact words and context on tape.

Former Member

How do you do it? Is there a device you buy or do you simply get a tape recorded as close to the phone as possible? I mean, I know companies will have the means in their telephone systems but how about Joe Bloggs in the street?

Former Member

Ian Blair is such an embarrassment. He's put his foot in it time and time again. We hear claims that he dithered as an innocent man was shot in Stockwell. He laughably brands the media "institutionally racist". Now he records conversations with the Attorney General. He just can't help himself, can he? Someone sack him already, and give London a proper police chief instead of a media whore.

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stargalaxy wrote:

Ian Blair is such an embarrassment. He's put his foot in it time and time again. We hear claims that he dithered as an innocent man was shot in Stockwell. He laughably brands the media "institutionally racist". Now he records conversations with the Attorney General. He just can't help himself, can he? Someone sack him already, and give London a proper police chief instead of a media whore.

i tink its perfectly reasonable to record phone conversations for his own private use, so he can watch his back

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MrG wrote:

i tink its perfectly reasonable to record phone conversations for his own private use, so he can watch his back

Recording conversations with the Attorney General sounds rather fishy to me. Why was he recording them? He says it's because he didn't have anybody to take notes. Can't he do it himself?

Former Member

oh sorry mr attorny general while i hold the conversatioon and get a pen

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MrG wrote:

oh sorry mr attorney general while i hold the conversatioon and get a pen

Oh, come on! I'm sure Lord Goldsmith could wait a few seconds whilst Sir Ian gets out a pen and paper. It's not hard!

Former Member

I really don't blame Blair for doing this.

Would you trust a New Labour politician (or indeed any politician) to keep their word?

I know I wouldn't.

The saddest thing is that Britain's top copper doesn't trust anyone. Understandable given the current climate.

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Given the monumental amount of rubbish Blair has spoken regarding the Menezes issue alone, I think it's anyone else who should be recording anything that is said if talking to Sir Ian.

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Kermit wrote:

Would you trust a New Labour politician (or indeed any politician) to keep their word?

Fair point, I suppose.

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Kermit wrote:

The saddest thing is that Britain's top copper doesn't trust anyone. Understandable given the current climate.

Thats an admirable trait in a copper. If he also thinks no-one is truly above the law too, then we might actually have the first decent commander for ages.