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Well, someone agrees with me!
Prepare for people to say "omg stalin was evil11!one!" a fair bit now. Stalin... was the lesser of two evils really. And an entirley necessary evil.
Without him, Hitler would have killed all you motherfuckers without thinking twice. Britain, would be flattened. By the time the USA got involved, it'd have been too late without Stalin leading the USSR.
70% of the Nazi's armed forces fell to the Russians. So however much of a part D-Day played... bear that in mind. We only took on 30%.
Then again, it was the same system that allowed Stalin to come to power after Lenin because Lenin was equally power mad and refused to allow a successor to come to the for front.
Russia since 1989 is an even more spectacular failure - proof that capitalism will never work?
That the disparity between the have's and have nots is accelerating and widening only further reinforces this reality.
You're making the same mistake that everyone on here seems to make - conflating Stalinism or Leninism with communism.
I believe she may be taking issue with you assertion that somewhere can have been "always capitalist".
Marxism is a theory that doesnt work now in modern times as it was designed a theory for the time it was written.
Lenin took marxism and distroted it for his own political agenda and quest for power, by forcing revolution instead of allowing it to happen naturally, however once in power, Lenin did impliment true comunism, not marxism and not even leninism but true communism. It failed miserably and so had to be modified to fit a capitalist system.
Stalinism of course undermind the capitalism implimented by lenin and so reverted to a forced communist system of true comunism, which was collectivisation. It was merely more aggressive and brutal to lenin attempt at communism, which in itself led to thousands of farmers been execute for not farming for the nation, because they wanted some compensation for it. The result been the USSR had topurchase food, grain etc from America in secret to feed its people.
Post Stalin, moderate communism with elements of capitalism were implimented. This was impossible to work in a predominantly capitalist world.
Actual communism can not compete with capitalism. Capitalism may infact not be better then communism, however communism can not compete successfully in a capitalist world unless you have a vast majority of citizens within that system been happy to suffer for the sake of its success. which most people are not, hence its failing.
You do it all the time with the phrase "capitalist", so why not?
Well, where ever money exchange has occured for services or good provided is capitalism, trade is capitalism, the consumption of wealth by business, etc. So even in the Roman Empire, Ancient Greece, etc capitalism has occured. The British Empire was capitalist, industrialisation leads to capitalism as it was always taken as a given system foe the situation or a given way to work. Then Marx came along with alternatives as did many others and tried them.
Their thinking outside the box may have worked had it been done the way it was theorised and at that given time. But in essense, development with the rest of the developing world usually comes off better if you do it in the same way as the others. As in Russia been capitalist at that time.
Of course it doesnt work if your a country who develops later, like Africa or central America of course. That is obvious to see, i think. They become easily manipulated and control and exploited.
The capitalist mode of production has existed for a long time, but it wasn't always the dominant mode of production. Feudalism, mercantilism, subsistence farming etc all existed long before capitalism became dominant. I think the confusion arises because you don't actually have a clear idea of what capitalism actually means.
You got that right.
Unless your picking fruit from uncultivated trees, your engaged in capitalism.
Why must you always jump in to debates blagsta like an expert but fail to say anything at all, you just diss everyone else who you disagree with? It is kind of pointless if your not making a contribution.
This is a good point. I've been reading the work of Bill Warren, one of the New Marxist writers and he makes a similar arguement in reference to Lenin's theory of imperialism. Marxist thought clearly states that capitalism is the highest form of economics thus far and that Communism can only occur afterwards.
That makes sense economically too. Without the necessary infrastructure, integration into the gloabl trade system and heavy industry, Russia stood a snowballs chance in hell of lasting, as does any country that strictly adheres to non-capitalist thought. It had to try and catch up with the rest of the world, while also putting down dissent and dealing with foreign forces invading in its early years. China has only survived so far because of its opening of markets to foreign investors and a bastardised Centralised/capitalist economy. Russia never took that risk. If the Chinese are as sensible as I think, they will use that investment to continue improving their heavy industry, communications and infrastructure, ensuring success over a longer period of time.
Errrr...no. Capitalism is not the same thing as trade. Have a look at what the Encarta Encyclopedia has to say on the subject
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761576596/Capitalism.html
What's so funny?
then again you may probably have read it somewhere.
then why post it apart from shit stirring?
you become captain fucking paranoia again!
but seeing as your baiting me again ...
do you see a pattern below?
Which laws aren't being enforced properly?
Which drugs? What do you mean by "addiction"?
Which "lefties" are calling for a ban on restricting smoking? Name them
Do they?
Are you "hooked" on alcohol? If not, why not?
Yes - asking questions of people elicits from them exactly what they think on a subject. You haven't really got the hang of this debate thing have you?