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Prince Charles vs The Mail on Sunday

I'm well-aware that the P&D forum on this board is stuffed to the rafters full of left-wing republicans who seem to believe that Jacques Chirac makes a better head of state than a queen who is above politics, but no matter. This is about the case going on concerning Prince Charles.

Now, last November, The Mail on Sunday published diary extracts from Prince Charles. It was revealed he keeps a journal, and circulates it to his close friends. In a sense, it's like a version of LiveJournal. I write in it, and my friends on the list get to see it. Before anyone asks, yes, I have read the extracts. I thought they were very measured, a very interesting set of opinions and well-written. I quite enjoyed reading them.

However, this case raises a serious question. Traditionally, the monarchy has kept quiet about politics. We know royal family members have political opinions, but constituationally, they're meant to keep quiet about them. Charles is openly expressing political opinions. Should a man in his position be allowed to do this?

Hugh Tomlinson QC for Prince Charles: << details >>
"We say it is absolutely vital to the position of the claimant, and anyone else in his position, that this sort of document cannot be published willy-nilly by the press. The claimant does not intend or wish to publish the journals although it is possible that after his death, edited extracts may be published."

On the one hand, I can see his point. I wouldn't be too keen if a Sunday newspaper started publishing extracts from my diaries either. But the paper could easily claim "this is in the public interest". Or is it? The other side...

Mark Warby QC for The Mail on Sunday: << details >>
"This case is about politics, political opinion and the role of the heir to the throne in relation to these issues. These journals are not what he did on his holidays. They are records of public events in which he engaged as a public servant. We say the nub is the prince's status and conduct. It is not open to him to complain when the public is told of the fact he is circulating political opinions and what his opinions are."

Again, I sympathise with the Mail's point of view. But I really don't know what else to think. This case could have some constitutional implications potentially.

What do you all make of this?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    where does it say anywhere that charles shouldnt voice his opinions
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i feel sorry for the guy.
    can't speak out ...can't go down the pub for a game of dominoes ...can't go to the **** shop on the corner ...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MrG wrote:
    where does it say anywhere that charles shouldnt voice his opinions
    Well, we've got to remember that Britain doesn't have a written constitution. It damn well should - that way, we won't have wretched New Labour politicians trying to reform it all the time, using it as their own little plaything. But it would also clear up some of these questions at the same time. If Charles wants to say something about politics, I wouldn't begrudge him doing so. I just hope he doesn't start telling us who to vote for - now that would be a gross example of misconduct.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i feel sorry for the guy.
    can't speak out ...can't go down the pub for a game of dominoes ...can't go to the **** shop on the corner ...

    He can talk to his plants though.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Spliffie wrote:
    He can talk to his plants though.
    yeah ...and looks like his kids are smoking them!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i feel sorry for the guy.
    can't speak out ...can't go down the pub for a game of dominoes ...can't go to the **** shop on the corner ...

    there's a head shop next to the palace?



    ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Charlieboy has also given a speech whilst fucked on Kava. Apparently it didn't go too well... :cool:

    That's 2/3 potential future heirs on drugs (that we know of). If Harry was caught sniffing gear, i might have to consider becoming a Royalist.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm well-aware that the P&D forum on this board is stuffed to the rafters full of left-wing republicans who seem to believe that Jacques Chirac makes a better head of state than a queen who is above politics, but no matter.



    Youre really weird. SG....


    *hic*
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Charles is a liability to the Crown

    He must have been off sick the day they taught in Monarchy 101 that Heads of State must not interfere politically. Because that's what he's been doing all his life. He's unfit to be King.

    Mind you, it'd be nice if he takes down the HateMail on Sunday.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Charles is a liability to the Crown

    Too many words -

    Charles is a liability.

    Much better. Frankly I don't give a shit what the jug eared feudalisitic fucknut gets up to, just as long as I am not being asked to pay for any of it.

    As for the monarch not being political, what the fuck have you been smoking?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I just spent a bit of time this morning reading this, its very interesting from

    http://www.johannhari.com/index.php

    Well its too long to post so youl have to click on the link
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    To be fair he wrote some of his opinions in a private diary which was either for his own interest or for the interest of some of his friends.

    Its not like he stood up and made a speech, so its a bit unfair to say he was getting involved in politics.

    PS does anyone else find it a bit odd that whilst he travelled in cattle class when coming back from Hong Kong, socialists like Robin Cook took first class.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That cattle class trip must have been a first for him. He and his family usually have entire planes, choppers, trains and ships for themselves.

    Anyway, he's a bit too full of himself and to be frank rather a bit of a bother. From architecture to food produce to foreign relations, the man won't shut up.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    That cattle class trip must have been a first for him. He and his family usually have entire planes, choppers, trains and ships for themselves.

    Anyway, he's a bit too full of himself and to be frank rather a bit of a bother. From architecture to food produce to foreign relations, the man won't shut up.

    Isn't that kind of ironic that any of us who post regularly on P&D (or any other board) can complain about other spouting their opinions ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    NQA wrote:
    Isn't that kind of ironic that any of us who post regularly on P&D (or any other board) can complain about other spouting their opinions ;)
    Perhaps but I'm not Heir to the Crown :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    NQA wrote:
    PS does anyone else find it a bit odd that whilst he travelled in cattle class when coming back from Hong Kong, socialists like Robin Cook took first class.
    Robin Cook was a socialist? Well, I'll eat my hat. :rolleyes: Was this the same Robin Cook who proclaimed Britain was following an "ethical foreign policy" a few weeks before an arms scandal broke? Cook was merely another leftie who followed the principle of "do as I say, not as I do".
    Aladdin wrote:
    Anyway, he's a bit too full of himself and to be frank rather a bit of a bother. From architecture to food produce to foreign relations, the man won't shut up.
    Says the man who loves to (rightly) berate Bush's environmental record... ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    Anyway, he's a bit too full of himself and to be frank rather a bit of a bother. From architecture to food produce to foreign relations, the man won't shut up.
    rich kid ...charlie ...rich kid ch ...nahhhh.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Typical tabloid.

    Were they private diaries? If so, they should get their dirty bastard hands off them.
    Ha, friends only, then. Not friends and scummy tabloid only.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    NQA wrote:
    socialists like Robin Cook took first class.

    Since when was Robin Cook a socialist?
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