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Sorry.another thread bout girls..

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Well........valentines is coming up and again I`ll most likely be alone as usual.. :crying:
But...theres a girl at the library who works there who I find quite attractive to say the least.......... :blush: Problem is I reckon shes older than me(at least early 20`s)and Im only 18 in march.
Reading through this it already sounds like a lost cause (plus Iv only seen her there twice).
My mates view whos seen her is that shes waaaaayy out of my league and I wouldnt stand a chance which is most likely right.
Oh well,I probably wouldnt say anything to her anyway and I guess I can cope with being alone again for valentines.
Its my 17th one so I should be used to it by now!!

Would any of you guys do anything......I dont want to look stupid because I go there quite often.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    As you get older you will start to realise that nobody really gives a fuck so just ask her out. worst she can do is say no.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've gotta say, I know there are some people who can do it, but I've never met anyone who's just gone up to someone they don't know and asked them out within about 2 minutes of meeting them. Have you spoken to her before other than library crap? Talk to her, see if you have anything in common first. Don't just go up to her with, "I know we've never spoken before, but I think your really pretty, wanna go out?" Maybe you could ask for her help with a computer problem or to find a book, then when she's helping have a quick chat and joke to see if she seems interested.

    People always give the "if you don't ask, you'll never know" advice, but I don't think that's very useful, especially when you're low on confidence. It's find it's better to just chat to people you like to see if you have anything in common first (you can usually tell fairly quickly whether you'll connect) then use the "if you don't ask, you'll never know". If you take the approach of just asking out anyone you like the look of because "what have you got to lose" then you either lose all your confidence because 99 times out of 100 they'll say no for one reason or another, or you'll go out with a string of people for a few dates each because you didn't get the time to get to know them before deciding you liked them, and realised after a short while that you didn't connect.

    I reckon it can also be quite intimidating (for some girls) to go out with someone they've only spoken to once or twice, just the two of you. Maybe you could mention an event or club you're going to this weekend, and ask her to come with her friends. Then ask her for her number so you can meet up when you get there. That way if it turns out you don't get on amazingly well, you both have an easy escape. But I don't think suggesting a romantic valentines meal is the right way to go (by the way, clubs on valentines night are the perfect place to meet single girls).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru

    People always give the "if you don't ask, you'll never know" advice, but I don't think that's very useful, especially when you're low on confidence.

    I reckon it can also be quite intimidating (for some girls) to go out with someone they've only spoken to once or twice, just the two of you. Maybe you could mention an event or club you're going to this weekend, and ask her to come with her friends. Then ask her for her number so you can meet up when you get there. That way if it turns out you don't get on amazingly well, you both have an easy escape. But I don't think suggesting a romantic valentines meal is the right way to go (by the way, clubs on valentines night are the perfect place to meet single girls).

    I totally agree with your advice, I would never agree to a date with someone who I didn't know, even if they were the most gorgeous person on the Earth.

    I think chatting to her (without being too forceful about the fact that you fancy the pants off her) is the best thing to do. As for the 'she's out of your league comment' I think that is total bull and very unhelpful, your friends are probably saying that cos they like her.

    I once went out with a guy that I didn't really fancy (just going off how attractive he was) but after a few dates I fancied him so much because he was just so funny and great to be around. He got better looking each time we met. I don't believe there are 'leagues' of people and I would never rule anyone out.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    myhumps wrote:
    I totally agree with your advice, I would never agree to a date with someone who I didn't know, even if they were the most gorgeous person on the Earth.

    I think chatting to her (without being too forceful about the fact that you fancy the pants off her) is the best thing to do. As for the 'she's out of your league comment' I think that is total bull and very unhelpful, your friends are probably saying that cos they like her.

    I once went out with a guy that I didn't really fancy (just going off how attractive he was) but after a few dates I fancied him so much because he was just so funny and great to be around. He got better looking each time we met. I don't believe there are 'leagues' of people and I would never rule anyone out.
    I agree. I reckon most guys, even if they're good friends, would get jealous if you were going out with a really pretty girl and subconsciously wouldn't want you to have a 'better' girlfriend than them. Take comfort in the number of plain guys you see with stunning girls, cos I see that all the time.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Didn't you do a thread asking about what's required to become a porn star a while ago? Hmm... moving on, I just say ask the girl out.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'd say ask her out too. To be topical, a complete stranger asked me out the other day and I was absolutely chuffed to bits (granted, I wasn't at work at the time).

    It is one of those "what's the worst that can happen scenarios" and the worst that can happen is that she ridicules you mercilessly - if she did/does that then I think it would give you a fair idea of the kind of person she was, and you'd then feel you had a lucky escape. I'm sure she wouldn't react in that way, anyhow, it'd be far more likely that she'd be pleased or feel embarassed and awkward. I see I'm With Stupid's point, but shy bairns really do get nowt in this life. She's not going to initiate contact with you, unless it's to accost you over some overdue book fines.

    The only thing I do have reservations about is your age. I know people say it's nothing but a number (and two, three years seems like nothing), but I think a lot of 20 year old woman would be very hesitant to get involved with an 18 year old. Obviously it varies in individual circumstances, though. I'd also tell your friend to can his "out of your league" comments, because that's unhelpful at best. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    briggi wrote:
    I'd say ask her out too. To be topical, a complete stranger asked me out the other day and I was absolutely chuffed to bits (granted, I wasn't at work at the time).
    And you went out with him then?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Not yet, am doing on Thursday.

    As far as I'm aware, you only live once... ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Haha, bet he was dead good lookin' though. :p

    Even the guys that are good at chatting up girls will admit that even somewhere like a bar, 9 times out of 10 you won't be able to get a strangers number. Even when you've got it, that doesn't neccesarily mean that you'll get to go out with her (she might just give it you cos she's drunk or to get rid of you). And once you go out with her, it won't often end up being someone that you really connect with. Someone who's lacking in confidence would have killed themselves by this point. :eek:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Never think anyone is out of your league! But then don't be up your own arse......Shyness and self loathe are not attractive!
    Though you may be a bit young for this girl, you never know until you try. But keep your cool and take whatever answer you get on the chin!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Haha, bet he was dead good lookin' though. :p

    That's debatable. He had the patter though, which was what won me over.

    I probably never would've agreed if it'd been in a bar, you're right about the chances of success there, I think! Or at least the chances of number leading to date leading to relationship.

    Vicky's right, "Mr Death" - be cool and take it on the chin, whatever happens...you couldn't ask for more straightforward advice!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Haha, bet he was dead good lookin' though. :p

    Even the guys that are good at chatting up girls will admit that even somewhere like a bar, 9 times out of 10 you won't be able to get a strangers number. Even when you've got it, that doesn't neccesarily mean that you'll get to go out with her (she might just give it you cos she's drunk or to get rid of you). And once you go out with her, it won't often end up being someone that you really connect with. Someone who's lacking in confidence would have killed themselves by this point. :eek:

    Think you're missing the point a bit though. You shouldn't approach girls with the thought that it will lead somewhere, that you'll go out with her if only she's interested. That's putting far too much pressure on yourself and you're already placing her above you...no one wants to go out with someone beneath them and if you consider yourself beneath her then why shouldn't she?

    You go out and chat to girls, have a laugh, get to meet people. Your not trying to connect with every pretty girl you talk to - your having a good time and if in the process you start talking to someone you get on well with and she seems interested you ask for her number or drag her into a less well lit area of the bar/club :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jon_UK wrote:
    Think you're missing the point a bit though. You shouldn't approach girls with the thought that it will lead somewhere, that you'll go out with her if only she's interested. That's putting far too much pressure on yourself and you're already placing her above you...no one wants to go out with someone beneath them and if you consider yourself beneath her then why shouldn't she?

    You go out and chat to girls, have a laugh, get to meet people. Your not trying to connect with every pretty girl you talk to - your having a good time and if in the process you start talking to someone you get on well with and she seems interested you ask for her number or drag her into a less well lit area of the bar/club :p
    That's a good point, but that's also exactly the sort of thing that someone low on confidence would do, and why I think it is bad advice to say "Just go for it." That's exactly why the mutual friend/party thing is infinitely better than the pub/club thing for meeting new people, especially at first. You'll then meet people you've met at parties in pubs/clubs and meet their friends giving you more opportunity to find someone you like.

    But you're right, it's all about increasing your circle of friends. Obviously the more friends you have, the more chance that one of them will introduce you to your next girlfriend.

    In this specific case, if you didn't want to ask her to go somewhere with her friends (like I suggested earlier), I reckon you could still have a chat, find out what clubs she goes to and make an effort to go to them (I don't know where you live. Obviously this wouldn't work in London or somewhere). Then if you see her out, you can approach her without any issue and if you don't then you'll still have a good night out and might meet someone else you like.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    briggi wrote:
    Not yet, am doing on Thursday.

    I'm in awe, I'd turn into a heap of jelly. I wish I was that spontaneous but I just couldn't date someone I had only just met. Hope you have a great time!
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    myhumps wrote:
    I'm in awe, I'd turn into a heap of jelly. I wish I was that spontaneous but I just couldn't date someone I had only just met. Hope you have a great time!

    The mention of "dating someone" has made me nervous now, haha. I'm just looking at it as a few drinks and a natter, I'm glad to meet new people, and in terms of men - the bar is set fairly low after the last one. :p

    Oh, and cheers, I hope I have a great time too! :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    briggi wrote:
    shy bairns really do get nowt in this life.

    If you don't buy a ticket, you won't win the jackpot.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I went into a shop and asked a girl out in the second sentance, she said yes- I regretted it! Speak to miss library for a bit, see if you really do like her then, if you do- go for it, ask her out, it's the only way you'll find out if she'l go out with you. I shouldn't worry about being single on valentines, or any other day for that matter. Being in a couple is great and everything but I'd rather be single than in a forced relationship, and I'm mostly really enjoying my current singledom. You're only 18, it probably seems like everyone else is in a relationship- but they're not, and even the ones who are aren't always happy. Getting a girlfriend won't automatically make you happy either. To attract the kind of person you want, you need to be the kind of person miss ideal would want too. Get an interest/ hobby and create your own fulfillment- a confidant lad is a wanted lad, trust!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hey thanks for all the advice.
    Iv been laid up in bed all week with tonsilitis so all Iv attracted is strepsils!!
    I dont think I`ll bother with miss library though and just wait till Im 18 and go to bars and clubs.........only problem is Iv only got 1 friend and no money.... :banghead: then again Iv still got no confidence.
    Must try to work on that though somehow................ :chin:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    do you have a job? thta'll help with the lack of friends/confidence and money.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No not for the want of farking trying tho!!!!
    I was told by one place theyd phone me up for an interview......filled in an aplication for another and all the job centre has is jobs in great farking yarmouth!!! :banghead:
    Im in luton.............
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    well keep trying, and remember there are other ways of getting jobs than through the job centre.

    you'll find that things improve then.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    well I tried handing cvs out on the industrial estate (my cvs quite spartan cos i wasterd 2 years trying to go in army but then decided against it last november).
    Its really bugging me cos Im soooooooooooo BORED and just want to go out and do stuff and meet people......
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    what's stopping you?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No money.......
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    you don't have to have money to join clubs/go to college or whatever.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    you don't have to have money to join clubs/go to college or whatever.

    Very true
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    that ain't true!

    trust me, she'll probably be flattered and yeah, she might say no, but hey at least you would've tried!
    and don't worry about the age gap....this really sweet 17 year old asked me out (and i'm 21!!) i was pretty flattered because he was a really nice guy. it didn't even occur to me that he was 4 years younger than me.the only reason i said no was because i was seeing someone else at the time..
    if you can handle 'no' as an answer then yes, definitley you should go for it, because there's also a chance that the answer will be 'yes'!!
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