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Saddam's WMD Moved to Syria, An Israeli Says
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Who believes this Zionsit liar 
WMD only last for 18 months and then they are out-of-date and you have to make new batch etc
He is trying to get USA to take out their enemies so Israel does not lose their own lives in conflict with Syria.
I suspect that Mossad will bomb some Americn target abd blame Syria/Iran, and yes they have done it before (google search USS liberty).
http://www.nysun.com/article/24480
WMD only last for 18 months and then they are out-of-date and you have to make new batch etc
He is trying to get USA to take out their enemies so Israel does not lose their own lives in conflict with Syria.
I suspect that Mossad will bomb some Americn target abd blame Syria/Iran, and yes they have done it before (google search USS liberty).
Saddam Hussein moved his chemical weapons to Syria six weeks before the war started, Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom says.
The assertion comes as President Bush said yesterday that much of the intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction was incorrect.
The Israeli officer, Lieutenant General Moshe Yaalon, asserted that Saddam spirited his chemical weapons out of the country on the eve of the war. "He transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria," General Yaalon told The New York Sun over dinner in New York on Tuesday night. "No one went to Syria to find it."
From July 2002 to June 2005, when he retired, General Yaalon was chief of staff of the Israel Defense Force, the top job in the Israeli military, analogous to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the American military. He is now a military fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. He made similar, but more speculative, remarks in April 2004 that attracted little notice in America; at that time he was quoted as saying of the Iraqi weapons, "Perhaps they transferred them to another country, such as Syria."
http://www.nysun.com/article/24480
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By the way - did you find those recent cartoons in the papers funny? I did ...
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six weeks before the invasion ...and for a long time before that ...satelites and spy planes and listenimg etc devices would have picked up anything on the move.
especialy heading out of iraq.
second time i've agreed with you dave.
except the 18 months bit ...bio maybe.
I wouldn’t openly admit to agreeing with a fanatical anti-Semite even if it is on something not directly connected with that. If dave777 had promoted a vicious white pride site on these forums instead of an anti-Semitic equivalent organisation would you admit to agreeing with him on anything?
Anyway, MR as you well know our intelligence has been flawed; British and US intelligence on Iraq has been shown to be inaccurate. Hence I don’t think there’s any guarantee that we would have been aware if Iraq had moved WMDs to Syria; our intelligence services really aren’t as good as people think they are. And this Israeli claim which is probably based on Mossad intelligence could be quite credible; when it comes to something that quite clearly directly affects Israeli security Mossad will be better informed than their British counterparts and so I wouldn’t swiftly dismiss this.
Regardless, dave777 shows again how absolutely thick he is displaying his lack of intelligence and appearing as nothing more than a brainwashed Islamist extremist. For a start he can’t even spell Zionist. And that he is dismissing a valid possibility simply because of the nationality of his source is if not anti-Semitic in the case of dave777 quite definitely xenophobic – as well as being ridiculous.
So if Dave comes on and says that 2+2=4 people are supposed to automatically disagree with him becaue you don't like hi other views?
What a load of bollocks.
Btw, there isn't now, nor will there ever be an Israel. It's fictional, and as you are willing to shoot people over it, you are just as dangerous in my eyes as any other schizophrenic who sees things that aren't really there and who will use guns to make people act like a delusion is truth.
That should read purposely and politically cherry picked to endorse a pre planned ideological agenda. There was no mistake only criminally dishonest and militant intent to conduct an illegal war of aggression.
No different in principle from the war of aggression for which the Nuremberg Principles themselves were drafted. Not, of course, that an administration which has declared international law "irrelevant" and "quaint" as concerns its own accountability thereto nor those who make continued apology for them should comprehend such consistent application of principle.
Tesco Value WMD's.
I DONT CARE WHERE THEY ARE. Iraq had shit WMD Scuds that were poorley maintained and tended to fall apart. Woo.
I would like to say...Israel does exist, you cannot deny that Klintok and saying it doesnt when it clearly does i just pointless to any real discussion, Israel is as real as England is.
Second, the point Dissillusioned made about disagreeing with some one who posts anti-semetic material (if it really is anti-semetic) when they are posting on the subject of Israel or Israeli actions is bound to be biased in the negative of Israel and not a fair neutral statement. It is not a fair comparison to take up the old "2+2=4" argument with them that you should disagree with everything some one says, when Disillusioned wasnt doing that, he was making a specific case and point that had relevence!
and me and Dissillusioned dont agree on stuff...
Yes I know it was some Jew trying to stitch up Syria and give them bad name as they are next in line. BTW Syria did great job peacekeeping in Lebanon and stopped the civil war and brought stability to that region :wave:
I will answer both at same time
http://www.hermes-press.com/wmd_gate.htm
Do some research for yourself :banghead:
Chemicals go out of date-just look in your medicine cabinet (sell by dates)
They're still disposing of mustard gas shells from WW1
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/04/15/Vimy.munitions/?related
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http://www.wdghunt.demon.co.uk/family/uxozone.htm
So the people responsible for disposing of them, seem to think they're still hazardous and I suspect they should know. To compare poison gas with paracetomol is a bit stupid, to be honest.
Yes, quite right. England is also entirely fictional. It doesn't exist. It never has and it never will. It's as real as the boundaries of a football pitch.
i.e. not real at all, but just a pretend game that lets you do stuff. In the case of football, it lets you have a fun game and a bit of a day out. In the case of countries it;s a good excuse to rob people and shoot them etc.
Problem is, most folks think it's real. :nervous:
No, Dis said that MR shouldn't agree with anything Dave said. Wich is obviously shite.
Also, a football pitch IS real! you can see them and walk on them. The game is a game, the pitch is a tangible thing you can see, touch, walk on. Just like England or Israel...hence real!
The white lines are there, what they mean is up to whoever looks at them. This is the great advantage of the "country" belief. People fill in the blanks themselves, and once they have done that it's very difficult to shift.
Only if you have learned that it's a football pitch, how you are supposed to behave "in" one. If you don't give two fucks about football or don't know the rules, it's just a lot of white lines and men in shorts.
The men in shorts think it's a great crime to cross those lines and wander about the pitch. In the case of countries, unlike football, people think it's not just a game, and will pick up a gun to make you play.
It's just grass and white lines. It doesn't have to mean anything unless you want it to. The rules of football are arbitary and made up by men. There's no special power that men possess that disables the use of hands in a given area, for example. Ask Marradonna. Equally, other laws prevent nothing.
Same with countries, the whole thing is made up and is only an idea. If you want to have that idea, then fine. At what point are you justified in picking up a weapon in an attempt to force me to join you?
Never, that's when.
You seem to think that Israel or England is the ground that they are said to inhabit. If that was the case, did the ground get magically conjured up from nothing when those countries were first thought of? Did the geography you think of as "England" not really exist in 1706?
No, you don't. Learn what is useful, fuck off what is not. Is it useful for me to believe that I am surrounded by invisible, imaginary boundaries? Not really. It's kind of irrelevent.
Is it useful for me to believe that I have some imaginary bond with other people I have never met just because I am with in those imaginary boundaries? Not usually. It's kind of irrelevent.
Is it useful for me to believe that my mere presence within imaginary boundaries means I must work to pay people I have never met or agreed anything with through theftation? Don't think so.......
Is it useful for me to think that just because I am within imaginary boundaries I must obey words and opinions that have been written down by yet more people who i have never met or agreed anything with? Again, not really. Why would I obey these strangers? Oh yeah, they'll physically attack me if I don't.
No it's not just me either.
No, it's not a case of refusing to accept what is there, it's me pointing out that it isn't there in the first place.
Saying that I am "refusing to accept" something assumes that it exists. It doesn't, so the active participant in this must be whoever wants me to pretend that it is.
If you cannot see the implications for having an entire legal and political system built on marsh gas.................
oh and it is possible that things couldl have been shifted.
Once again americas piss poor management meant the borders were unguraded and un watched a fair bit.
they only discovered smuggling of ewquipment on the syiran border half way through the war!!
Incidentally, not even the US government now questions that there were absolutely no WMDs in Iraq, that there had not been for quite some time or that Saddam wasn't a threat to an old people's home, let alone another country.
Time to drop it all off. The war as illegal as hell. End of.
IT WAS NOT AN ILLEGAL WAR!! DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE LEGALITY AND ILLEGALITY OF WAR???? WHAT MAKES IT ILLEGAL? SHOW IT! DON'T JUST SAY IT.
Peple who go on abotu zionst argument generaly are all usa bad, middle east good (apart from isreal of course)
I could go into the arguments of why the not accepting WMD's existed and the flaws of the argument but no 1 would understand it.
Well actually...they did break the UN's Conventions rules by going to war so legally, it was an illegal war.
Also, no one is saying the US is all bad and the Middle East is good. You need your head checked mate.
The Un Convetnions rules? Pah! They dont hold and are as flexible as an elastic band. Plus with past resolution spassed, they even had the authorisation without a new resolution.
The only thing they could be pulled on is a crime of aggression, but since the actualy defination and its implimentation won't even be decided upon for 7 years, you can't even get them for that.
Are you trying to say there's no such thing as international law?
Also, the UN resolutions that America and the UK failed to get, did not make the war illegal. They did infact already have a hand full of older Resolutions that had never been acted upon. Just because they were older didnt mean they couldnt be used so technically it can be said the war was legal.
As for Klintock...are you saying you do not pay Taxes at all? You do not obey any laws? Are you saying you would murder with out trepidation? Commit acts of incestuous carnalogy? Nay...even take fruits and vegetables through customs on a trip to Australia??? Are you saying that...because if nothing is real or any of these boundaries or laws exist, what is stopping you? It is only the law that stops me killing everyone who looks at me funny.
I pay as little as possible.
Gravity and so forth seem pretty unbeatable.
Why the hell would I go and do that for?
The thing that stops you, quite obviously, is the large selection of armed and unarmed men and women who wish to enforce their will upon you. Thing is, unlike you, who carries the law around internally, when those people aren't with me, I have no law. If theres no police about, then that red light is second to my own judgement.
A better question for you to ask yourself is why do you equate a totally pragmatic approach to the law as meaning I will automatically become some kind of degenerate monster?
You, or people with the same beliefs as yourself will do a thing you know to be wrong because it's legal and you are told to, whereas I won't if I can possibly avoid it.
Then you have a serious problem. Seek help. :yes:
By laws i didnt mean laws of physics, i meant laws of man, criminal law.
Think about what those two statements mean together and come back to me.