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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
If you tell your GP that you took a controlled substance I assume they'd put it in your permenant records? Do I assume correct? And if so, would this ever matter?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    katralla wrote:
    If you tell your GP that you took a controlled substance I assume they'd put it in your permenant records? Do I assume correct? And if so, would this ever matter?
    i don't think it would be on a readable record ...not unless you have been a registered addict.
    all your conversations and habbits are not recorded in that manner ...i'm not 100% sure though.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ok, I'm asking mainly because my friend told me she'd been turned down on life insurace when she got her mortgage because of a failed suicide attempt that was in her medical records from when she was 14.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    katralla wrote:
    Ok, I'm asking mainly because my friend told me she'd been turned down on life insurace when she got her mortgage because of a failed suicide attempt that was in her medical records from when she was 14.
    different ball game but ...how does she know that was why?

    last year i was turned down on a policy ...i wasn't told why and didn't ask but i presume it was cos i lied.
    have you ever had an aids test?
    no.
    the answer of course should have been yes.

    what gets me is ...surely it is sensible to find out you are clean and safe ...the company could see i was clean and safe ...although having lived dangerously ...driving dangerous girls across dirty sheets.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    no way! It's a bad thing to have been tested then??????- how strange, surely the question ought to be "have you tested +?"
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Having an HIV test is no longer a reason for denying life insurance. And as life assurance policies don't pay out on suicide, I can't see how a failed suicide attempt would make them refuse a policy.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    last year i was turned down on a policy ...i wasn't told why and didn't ask but i presume it was cos i lied.
    have you ever had an aids test?
    no.
    the answer of course should have been yes.
    Tbh if you'd said "yes" they still would have turned you down.

    Life is shit like that though since surely its better to have a test to be sure than not have a test and risk infecting others?! It just seems really unfair to punish people responsible enough to bother getting tested (like yourself) but not people who for example have random unprotected sex with tonnes of different people but never bother going for a test.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kentish wrote:
    Having an HIV test is no longer a reason for denying life insurance. And as life assurance policies don't pay out on suicide, I can't see how a failed suicide attempt would make them refuse a policy.
    Ah ok. I based my last post on what I was told a couple of years ago. Sorry.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    katralla wrote:
    no way! It's a bad thing to have been tested then??????- how strange, surely the question ought to be "have you tested +?"
    It's something to do with the fact that if you needed a test then you have a dodgy lifestyle or something.

    But in reality (and I base this statement on the bahaviour of my own real life friends) it is always the more responsible ones who go for this type of test, the really irresponsible ones can't be bothered or chose not to.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kentish wrote:
    Having an HIV test is no longer a reason for denying life insurance. And as life assurance policies don't pay out on suicide, I can't see how a failed suicide attempt would make them refuse a policy.
    technicaly yes but in reality ...i think it does.

    as for the suicide case ...your a high risk to the insurance company cos the coroners verdict might not be suicide.

    you can get incredibly cheap accidental death policies.
    but the reality is ...it is very rare the coroner puts accidental death ...more often it is misadventure when you die accidently ...meaning they rarely have to pay out ...hence why they are so cheap ...they are basicaly stealing your dosh cos the odds are very much in their favour.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    katralla wrote:
    If you tell your GP that you took a controlled substance I assume they'd put it in your permenant records? Do I assume correct? And if so, would this ever matter?
    My step-brother admitted to former illegal drug addiction
    on a work medical once.

    He failed the medical because of this (despite being 100% clean for 3+ years by then) which should have meant he lost his job (it was a new job) but luckily he'd already been there 3 months and the bosses were really pleased with his work so ignored the company policy and kept him on.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    A friend of mine wasn't allowed to be prescribed to adderall because he had tested positive on a uninalisis for THC 2 years before.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    A friend of mine wasn't allowed to be prescribed to adderall because he had tested positive on a uninalisis for THC 2 years before.
    can you explain mate ...not quite sure i understand that one.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    technicaly yes but in reality ...i think it does.
    They'd be breaking the law if they did decide a policy on those grounds. Anyone who donates blood has an HIV test every 4 months. Depends how cynical you are, but it certainly is not directly questioned on life assurance application forms.
    you can get incredibly cheap accidental death policies.
    but the reality is ...it is very rare the coroner puts accidental death ...more often it is misadventure when you die accidently ...meaning they rarely have to pay out ...hence why they are so cheap ...they are basicaly stealing your dosh cos the odds are very much in their favour.
    Maybe. You'd have to check that with the company. As with any insurance policy, if the big companies won't insure your level of risk, the best advice is to go to a specialist broker.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    can you explain mate ...not quite sure i understand that one.

    Surely :D

    A friend of mine went to the doctor, and got drug tested. The test came up positive for THC.
    Two years later, that same friend went to get prescribed to Adderall (l-amp./d-amp. salts) for his ADD. The doctor did not allow him to get the Adderall prescription due to it's high abuse potential and his previous positive drug test. He was prescribed to Straterra (a very, very worthless drug, Atomoxetine HCl) instead because it has zero abuse potential.

    So based on that, I would say they DO keep track of your drug use and it can, and will be taken into concideration when being prescribed drugs with an abuse potential, such as Stimulants, Benzo's, and Opiates.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Surely :D

    A friend of mine went to the doctor, and got drug tested. The test came up positive for THC.
    Two years later, that same friend went to get prescribed to Adderall (l-amp./d-amp. salts) for his ADD. The doctor did not allow him to get the Adderall prescription due to it's high abuse potential and his previous positive drug test. He was prescribed to Straterra (a very, very worthless drug, Atomoxetine HCl) instead because it has zero abuse potential.

    So based on that, I would say they DO keep track of your drug use and it can, and will be taken into concideration when being prescribed drugs with an abuse potential, such as Stimulants, Benzo's, and Opiates.
    ahhh ...thankyou ...i understand now.
    i'm an ex heroin addict ...but after i'd been ten years clean ...i got morphine on script very easily.
    not what i wanted to be honest.
    i did use it but ...one months script lasted me about four years!

    i agree that records are kept in this manner but ...not all that stuff is available ...as far as i can tell ...to a prospective employer.
    sure ...my registered addict bit will be but ...telling your doctor you took such and such ...may well be on his records but i suspect most doctors don't put such stuff in the available info bit ...like i said ...i could be wrong ...especialy in this day and age!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ahhh ...thankyou ...i understand now.
    i'm an ex heroin addict ...but after i'd been ten years clean ...i got morphine on script very easily.
    not what i wanted to be honest.
    i did use it but ...one months script lasted me about four years!

    i agree that records are kept in this manner but ...not all that stuff is available ...as far as i can tell ...to a prospective employer.
    sure ...my registered addict bit will be but ...telling your doctor you took such and such ...may well be on his records but i suspect most doctors don't put such stuff in the available info bit ...like i said ...i could be wrong ...especialy in this day and age!

    Well i'm sure you'd get the prescription if the doctor really felt you needed them.

    I don't think that different doctors/hospitals share their records with other's. I think it's part of that privacy policy doctors have.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    humm, well that all seems... a bit unclear. I'll just ask the Doc exactly what goes in my records and who has access to them.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    katralla wrote:
    humm, well that all seems... a bit unclear. I'll just ask the Doc exactly what goes in my records and who has access to them.
    sounds sensible ...and refreshing in fact.
    most people seem frightened by doctors for some strange reason.
    do it ...let us know the answer cos it is clear that ...it's not that clear in here ...be interesting.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i think it would only go on your records if your GP thought it significant.
    was it affecting you? etc
    but if it just came up in the general conversation as a quick mention, i doubt it would be on file.
    but, yes. ask.
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