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Programmers get paid when people buy their software and there will always be more people who buy software than download it for free. One of the main reasons why people use pirated software is because they simply cannot aford to pay 2/3/400 quid for the product. I very much doubt the handful of people who do this will make software devs go hungry.
Well yes but that woulnd't happen at all is it because 'moral principles' that you are being 'ripped off' by the corporations are not most peoples consideration here is it?
It is simple self-interest and greed, but that doesn't sound so nice does it?
next time I can't afford the latest pair of trainers, I'll remember that
You usually have no problem with that
This means that there is no loss to the original owner. So how do they claim for damages from you?
To answer your Q, there are more strict christians and less strict. I think it's that which determines whether they break the law by illegally downloading software.
Klintock: I genuinely enjoy your matter of fact opinions on the world. IMO you have a cracking way of looking at things.
As far as the original copy being left intact goes though, with software you never buy an "original" in the true sense of the word. In fact to buy the original you'd probably have to purchase the computer the software / music was composed on. Also, i do disagree with the principal of if i appreciate something i have recieved then i am indebted to give something in return. I think a lot of the things i appreciate the most have been given to me with no expectations in return.
As far as the Christian view on pirated software and music goes i agree with Blagsta, you're stealing, simple as. The 8th commadment ties that one up pretty well.
I agree. It's why I said that if you like what you download you should feel obligated to go buy one. If you don't like it, then really you haven't done anything wrong as far as I am concerned.
Now, selling lots and lots of copies wouldn't be stealing, but it would be fraud, because you are selling it like you are the owner/originator, which you obviously are not.
it's criminal.
People don't seem to make a big fuss about copying a mates new music CD do they, I bet 90% of people on here at one time or another have either copied a CD/tape or had a copied one given to them.
Yeah it is, but it just seems stuff like that gets over looked more than Joe Bloggs downloading pirated tunes.
Is there anything in the the big book of God that says your not allowed to receive stolen goods? I see a potential loophole if not
yes ...in the book of microsoft it plainly states at verse seven chapter one ...thou shalt not covet thy nighbours digitals.
Unless it's for a good cause, like "testing".
cos no one likes the little details ...find lots of reasons ...mostly sensible ones ...as to why such and such doesn't apply to them?
Ahem. From a Christian point of view, there is little wrong with it as far as I can see. The Bible teaches us to be non-materialistic, and few are as materialistic and profiteering than publishers. Publishers are Evil. I am willing to support Vavle over steam, as hopefully they will eventually be able to use such systems to remove publishers from the equation - and give us the software directally from developer to customer. It also allows a great maount of feedback - it is truely the next step, I hope, for us.
I have never met anyone who (when discussing electronics prices) wasn't utterly disgusted at the fact that DVDs, CDs and games cost between 60% and 100% more on average in Europe than they do in the States. And that to add insult to injury the manufactures have imposed manufacturing techniques that prevent US-made products to work in Europe.
That is the pinnacle of greed and utter cuntiness. And that makes countless people's blood boil and decide to get their own back by buying pirate copies or downloading them for free.
When the greedy cheating scumbags who run the business play fair, they can start to demand the same of others. Not a second before.
But in a purely technical sense, it is stealing. It's kind of an a par with sneaking into the cinema. They were showing the film anyway, and you're not costing them any money, but if everyone did it, there would be no cinema.
As for computer software, prices of £400-500 isn't much if you plan to use the software to make money, but if you wanted to learn how to use Photoshop, for example to put on your CV, it is not really worth that sort of money. I tend to used licenced software, but I draw the line at not being allowed to install it on more than one computer, especially if it's in the same house and you'll only use one at a time (can see why they exist for businesses though). I'm sure that if they could, CD's would come with a listening licence, where you have to pay extra for more than one person to listen to it.
Just out of interest is lending CD's and DVD's to friends technically illegal. After all it does say 'No unauthorised lending' on those annoying warning things at the start of DVD's (One of the many irritating anti-piracy features put on DVD/CD's that make me lose my sympathy for the manufacturers by the second).
On a side note, pirate computer games are slighly different to pirate movies and tv - it's only recently that pirate movies, etc has really been a big issue - whereas pirate games have always exsisted on a massive scale - from homebrew hacks on the spectrum through pirated releases on the Amiga up to Deviance rips these days - I would imagine it has always been part of a companies business model, not that that is a justification.
Deviance are sadly no-more, last thing I heard.
Are the companies forcing you to have their product?
But is putting your prices up knowing full well that people are willing to pay it theft?