Being ashamed of pornography

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Is it understandable for people to not buy/keep/look at it because they find it shameful or could they relax a bit more?

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nah i love porn and have bought porn in the past, not loads and my life doesnt depend on it. its just another form of entertainment to me. most of my friends are the same, dont see it as shameful or something to hide.

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if someone doesnt want to own / look at porn that is their choice, they could relax i suppose but why should they have to?

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If people don't want to buy/look at porn for whatever reason, that's their choice and they shouldn't have to justify it, as much as those who do look at it.

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Porn is so mainstream now - it seems to impinge on a lot of popular culture

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leese wrote:

Porn is so mainstream now - it seems to impinge on a lot of popular culture

A bit sad really I think. People could just attend to their own lives a bit more but that's my opinion.

If are into it, how do you deal with the objectification/exploitation issue that some people come up with? Do you ignore it or do you try and say they're beng wrong? Or just not notice? Suppose I'd find it difficult to deal with such criticism myself, why I'm starting more and more to avoid the stuff, in fact become politically opposed to some of the stuff that goes on

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How can you say that? They are actors, are you saying actors are being exploited for their talents?? Your avoiding this stuff like a bad genre. Just because its not you're favourite doesnt mean you shoudl avoid it like an illness. Be opposed yes, but realise you sound like a mother that is opposed to violence on TV. Its the effects debate- just because it looks like women are being exploited doesnt make men exploit them in reality or even on set!

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Yay...the old women in porn exploitation argument...how exploited they must be when they get paid something ridiculous like 3 times the amount of any guy in the business? Poor poor women. They're actually going out and getting a job where they make a shitload more money than men, in an industry that is dependant on their continued working....now that is exploitation if i ever heard of it.

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AlmightyBob wrote:

Yay...the old women in porn exploitation argument...how exploited they must be when they get paid something ridiculous like 3 times the amount of any guy in the business? Poor poor women. They're actually going out and getting a job where they make a shitload more money than men, in an industry that is dependant on their continued working....now that is exploitation if i ever heard of it.

Now I'm not saying I disagree here, but I'd like to point something out. Firstly, I didn't mention women being exploited, second I meant that originally it was other people who came up with this exploitation/objectification thing.

Of course, you cannot really know without investigating the industry, but that doesn't stop these people from being disapproving, which does just seem to have a very powerful influence

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AlmightyBob wrote:

Yay...the old women in porn exploitation argument...

I find old women in porn rather revolting.....

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will haycock wrote:

Is it understandable for people to not buy/keep/look at it because they find it shameful or could they relax a bit more?

For some reason, I've never liked pornography (never looked at it or anything) and earlier this year, I got teased about it... :rolleyes:

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I dunno I'm a bit weird I like the soft porn images and sex scenes but anything full on is too much for me. I dunno why, just me and what I like I guess

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I'd also like to point out that I am not a prude who finds sex disgusting, and not PC either, more that the principle of porn + other people's arguments is what makes it increasingly difficult for me to agree with it. I can't exactly justify my 'right' to treat people like sexual objects somehow!

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i got loads of sexy woman piocs saved in a folder i got a porn dvd i got porn websites saved as favouirtes but i dont stick pictures of naked woman up on ma wall just incase the family look at me as some sort of perv .

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: :thumb: ive got a "hidden" folder with my lil treats in

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Haha I had pictures of birds with their tits out on my walls, grr alpha male!!

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Porn rules. Especially if you make it yourself.

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Either way porn is fantastic

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I do not understand quite what J is talking about. Though to be honest I'm still trying to work out what I'm talking about.

I can appreciate that people get a lot of money for doing porn. The question is, do they do it because they like it or is it only for the money?

And is it really that manly to pay a woman several £ to take her clothes off, then jack off over it?

What about doing the same thing for free?

And what kind of political statement does having naked images (for the purposes of wanking) on your computer or under your bed make?

I don't think porn affects the way we relate to people though to be honest - a misoygnistic/androphobic jerk is going to be a misoygnistic/androphobic jerk. A stud is going to be a stud. It's pretty much innate. The behaviour can be changed a bit - but I think porn makes next to no difference

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Of course, there is a difference between naked pictures and pictures/videos of sex as well

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Why try to analyse it? Its people getting their kit off and shagging. Don't think theres a great mystery to it.

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mmm getting kit off and shagging.

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LacyMay wrote:

Why try to analyse it? Its people getting their kit off and shagging. Don't think theres a great mystery to it.

Well, partly because other people try to analyse it and they're going to judge me for what I choose to buy or look at, so I think it's important.

For example, if Andrea Dworkin knew one read Playboy ( I don't by the way just an example), do you think she'd be impressed? Magazines like that can and do make a political statement

And yes, you can say people are going to do it anyway, might as well not worry why they're doing it, but that just makes you a machine I think. We don't need to be like machines, we can think better than that

At the same time, I am aware that avoidance is dismissing an entire genre as exploitative crap, which is possibly a bit unfair, and will get me marked out as a prude, which I don't want.

So it's a difficult decision, is it not?

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will haycock wrote:

Well, partly because other people try to analyse it and they're going to judge me for what I choose to buy or look at, so I think it's important.

For example, if Andrea Dworkin knew one read Playboy ( I don't by the way just an example), do you think she'd be impressed? Magazines like that can and do make a political statement

And yes, you can say people are going to do it anyway, might as well not worry why they're doing it, but that just makes you a machine I think. We don't need to be like machines, we can think better than that

At the same time, I am aware that avoidance is dismissing an entire genre as exploitative crap, which is possibly a bit unfair, and will get me marked out as a prude, which I don't want.

So it's a difficult decision, is it not?

No one i know analyses porn. They just watch it and get off on it :chin:

Really do you care that much about what people think of you?! It exploits no one, people have fun with it, and not being funny but the people that arent impressed with it are prudes, and who wants to be mates with them anyway!

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LacyMay wrote:

No one i know analyses porn. They just watch it and get off on it :chin:

Really do you care that much about what people think of you?! It exploits no one, people have fun with it, and not being funny but the people that arent impressed with it are prudes, and who wants to be mates with them anyway!

LMAO.

Well done Lacy, love you. You slut.

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Well, my brother doesn't (or didn't) approve, and he's friends with half the town.

But I guess you've got a point, maybe it's just one of these things which don't need to be intellectualised.

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will haycock wrote:

Well, my brother doesn't (or didn't) approve, and he's friends with half the town.

But I guess you've got a point, maybe it's just one of these things which don't need to be intellectualised.

Didn't approve in public, bet secretly hes well into it!

No it is one of those things that is how it is, nothing deep about it.